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    http://johnrlott.blogspot.com/2008/0...t-nra-ads.html

    Obama campaign tries to get NRA ads pulled

    Not content to make its case to the public, the Obama campaign is threatening legal action from its general counsel to make television stations stop running the ads. The Obama campaign cites FactCheck.org and the Washington Post. Yesterday I ran a piece that showed that both of those sources were completely wrong in their claims (see also this). Click on these scanned images of the cease and desist letters to make them larger and readable.





    http://johnrlott.tripod.com/op-eds/F...Ads092408.html

    http://johnrlott.blogspot.com/2008/0...tcheckorg.html

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    Click the link to read the actual letter.

    http://www.nraila.org/media/PDFs/ObamaLetterNRAAd.pdf



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    What is a vicious assault weapon?

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    um, that would be anything more then a single shot .22 rifle.

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    nObama's no different than any other tin-plated dictator, silence your critics.


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    "Barack Hussein Obama is a fanatical opponent of the 2nd Amendment.

    Now he wants to gut the 1st!"

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    What kritocratic bull$#!+

    So let me get this straight. The NRA is wrong because they called out Obama for supporting a ban on hunting rifles? My EBRis a more effectivedeerkiller than most single shot rifles. Seems kind of funny that almost all deer rounds are "armor piercing when the armor is a police bullet proof vest, designed to stop the large slow handgun round, not the small fast hunting round. Maybe Obama and Biden need a ballistics tutorial.

    What is real truth?? Obama and Biden are both colossal gun grabbers, but more importantly Obama shows a gross lack of ethics using lawyers to threaten sanction which would fall under his executive department to enforce if elected.

    His evil knows no bounds!!!
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    Thundar wrote:
    What kritocratic bull$#!+

    So let me get this straight. The NRA is wrong because they called out Obama for supporting a ban on hunting rifles? My EBRis a more effectivedeerkiller than most single shot rifles. Seems kind of funny that almost all deer rounds are "armor piercing when the armor is a police bullet proof vest, designed to stop the large slow handgun round, not the small fast hunting round. Maybe Obama and Biden need a ballistics tutorial.

    What is real truth?? Obama and Biden are both colossal gun grabbers, but more importantly Obama shows a gross lack of ethics using lawyers to threaten sanction which would fall under his executive department to enforce if elected.

    His evil knows no bounds!!!
    If you really dig into the legalities of the issue at hand, and put aside any bias, from a legal standpoint, given the facts, the Obama representatives actually have a case if they can use factual information to back up their claims to the broadcaster.

    As much as we may not like Obama or his percieved views on the 2nd ammendment, our feelings on the matter cannot affect or stand in the way of the laws on the books no matter how much we disagree with it. As far as the cases stated in the letter, the Obama representative does have a legal digress against the station if they do not comply with the FCC regulations concerning broadcast of libel, false, or slanderous material that can be prooven such according to the facts in a court of law.

    I know that bites, and I know you probably don't like me now or think I am an Obama supporter and a traiter for pointing this out, but I just thought that I would point out the fact that a person's emotional view of a particular topic or situation do not sway the law or disprove the facts as they have been presented.

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    LovesHisXD45 wrote:

    ....As far as the cases stated in the letter, the Obama representative does have a legal digress against the station if they do not comply with the FCC regulations concerning broadcast of libel, false, or slanderous material that can be proven such according to the facts in a court of law.....
    Then it seems to me that the tables could be turned on Obama for the same reasons, especially when it comes to his 'stance' on gun rights.

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    Armed wrote:
    LovesHisXD45 wrote:

    ....As far as the cases stated in the letter, the Obama representative does have a legal digress against the station if they do not comply with the FCC regulations concerning broadcast of libel, false, or slanderous material that can be proven such according to the facts in a court of law.....
    Then it seems to me that the tables could be turned on Obama for the same reasons, especially when it comes to his 'stance' on gun rights.
    I agree with you on that. Both candidates are guilty of spewing false info and pandering like crazy.

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    LovesHisXD45 wrote:
    Armed wrote:
    Then it seems to me that the tables could be turned on Obama for the same reasons, especially when it comes to his 'stance' on gun rights.
    I agree with you on that. Both candidates are guilty of spewing false info and pandering like crazy.

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    Obama essentially opposes the United States Constitution. Personally, I think that he would be content to replace it with the communist manifesto.
    Bob Owens @ Bearing Arms (paraphrased): "These people aren't against violence; they're very much in favor of violence. They're against armed resistance."

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    yeahYeah wrote:
    um, that would be anything more then a single shot .22 rifle.
    in a world where a broken pencil sharpener is considered a 'weapon', do you really think they'll 'allow' you to have even a single shot .22? Hell no!

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    So a polite request (I didn't see any threats, just the request) to stop saying something is now eeeeevil? Huh. Good to know.

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    sv_libertarian wrote:
    What is a vicious assault weapon?
    The kind that will attack without provocation, as opposed to the docile kind that will onlyattack in self defense or when ordered to,or the kind that will onlybeat you with it's wagging stock.Guns kill people , dude. Haven't you heard?
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    I'm really fed up with the liberal democRats double standard BS.

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    And here http://www.nraila.org/media/PDFs/wp_...e_obamaads.pdf is a response to to the acusations that the ads are false.

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    deepdiver wrote:
    Obama essentially opposes the United States Constitution. Personally, I think that he would be content to replace it with the communist manifesto.


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    Goto: http://www.mcrgo.org/mcrgo

    Scroll down and on the right hand column click on Obama wants to ban ads.

    His campaign committee wants to ban NRA ads on the radio and TV spelling out his voting records on gun control. I am sending e-mails and snail mail to every gun website I know. Regardless of who you might be supporting, if you want tokeep yourguns and gun rights, there is only one party to vote for.

    JOHN McCANN AND SARAH PALIN

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    I've seen at least one nObama supporter who is probably some campaign staffer slamming McCain. Even if you disagree with everything else McCain stands for, think he's too old or whatever, if you are here on this site you are supposed to be a gun owner and support OC.

    No one with any brains at all, (especially those who want too at least keep the laws as they are, let alone ease restrictions), should even consider obama. McCain has a less than stellar record, but he at least panders for our vote, opposed the AWB, and supported our side in the SC amicus brief. I'm more than certain obama will do everything he can to destroy the second amendment, confiscate weapons, and even ban imports of ammo. Don't be a moron, if gun rights are an issue to you, and you just can't support McCain, don't vote for the moonbat.

    Hell, obama is openly trying to subvert the 1st amendment, do you think he gives a damn about the 2nd?
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    McCain panders for money/poplularity/power (the 1st Duty - of an elect) and if 'Repugnicrats for Gun-control' offered more then he'd pimp for them and throw gun owners under the bus.

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    sureshot wrote:
    Goto: http://www.mcrgo.org/mcrgo

    Scroll down and on the right hand column click on Obama wants to ban ads.

    His campaign committee wants to ban NRA ads on the radio and TV spelling out his voting records on gun control. I am sending e-mails and snail mail to every gun website I know. Regardless of who you might be supporting, if you want tokeep yourguns and gun rights, there is only one party to vote for.

    JOHN McCANN AND SARAH PALIN
    They are not the 'party'. The party is the same one that elected the Bush-41/43 dynasty.

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