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    yeah, so...

    mccain (God I hope he wins) wants to make it so all weapons must be registered... so, will all of us who bought guns that arrent reg'd PREBAN? (as in, can we still legally own and OC them, etc.)

    secondly, obama has a 10 step "program" to disarm america...

    ONTOP of all that, the country i so love and adore is introuble!!! if this bailout (hate that word for it) fails... (if it passes, then fails i mean) THIS state will become a socialist state, and our posessions will nolonger be our own, man, what will we do :/

    this is how ive come to understand it, anyways. (lets all form a militia in the forest! YEEEYUH!!!)

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    b1ack5mith wrote:
    ...(lets all form a militia in the forest! YEEEYUH!!!)
    Good luck man. I don't think its a bad plan, its just a plan that BIG BROTHER has already foreshadowed.

    HOMEGROWN TERRORISM- The term `homegrown terrorism' means the use, planned use, or threatened use, of force or violence by a group or individual born, raised, or based and operating primarily within the United States or any possession of the United States to intimidate or coerce the United States government

    According to them, Thats you buddy. Remember, if your not with them, your against them. (not my rules, just the way it is) This is just my interpretation, feel free to flame.

    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill...bill=h110-1955



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    they will be the ones to turn on the government.... I am the government, YOU are the government, THEY will be the terrorists

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    PS, i meant militia as in a group, i didnt mention any killing lol, just as a band of hunter gatherers or somethin

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    b1ack5mith wrote:
    yeah, so...

    mccain (God I hope he wins) wants to make it so all weapons must be registered... so, will all of us who bought guns that arrent reg'd PREBAN? (as in, can we still legally own and OC them, etc.)

    secondly, obama has a 10 step "program" to disarm america...

    ONTOP of all that, the country i so love and adore is introuble!!! if this bailout (hate that word for it) fails... (if it passes, then fails i mean) THIS state will become a socialist state, and our posessions will nolonger be our own, man, what will we do :/

    this is how ive come to understand it, anyways. (lets all form a militia in the forest! YEEEYUH!!!)
    Why move to the forest? It's not like they will come to your house and search it for weapons. If you have guns that aren't registered I would suggest you keep it that way.

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    ainokea wrote:
    ...It's not like they will come to your house and search it for weapons...
    i hope your right.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z9pu...eature=related

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    ProtectedBy9mm wrote:
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    ...It's not like they will come to your house and search it for weapons...
    i hope your right.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Z9pu...eature=related
    Whatever......I would totally have those guys out gunned.:P There coming to take me away haha!!

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    You should be more worried about the squad you DON"T see. You know, the half thats on rooftops and the other half with FlashBangs waiting outside each window for the GREEN light.

    "Red team, Go, go, go!"



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    guys.. im about ready to leave the country... the end is near guys, i dont know what to do, times are gettin rough :/

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    b1ack5mith wrote:
    yeah, so...

    mccain (God I hope he wins) wants to make it so all weapons must be registered... so, will all of us who bought guns that arrent reg'd PREBAN? (as in, can we still legally own and OC them, etc.)

    secondly, obama has a 10 step "program" to disarm america...

    ONTOP of all that, the country i so love and adore is introuble!!! if this bailout (hate that word for it) fails... (if it passes, then fails i mean) THIS state will become a socialist state, and our posessions will nolonger be our own, man, what will we do :/

    this is how ive come to understand it, anyways. (lets all form a militia in the forest! YEEEYUH!!!)
    Im not worried for a bit about Obama saying he wants to disarm americans because it will never happen. Thanks to a little thing called the Bill of Rights

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    Also people do forget that the president is not the all mighty we also have congress and the senate.

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    also theres a thing called "socialism" which is headed straight for us. say bye bye to the bill of rights lol

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    b1ack5mith wrote:
    also theres a thing called "socialism" which is headed straight for us. say bye bye to the bill of rights lol
    Na I'm not worried a lick a bit.

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    Amendment 2 wrote:
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    also theres a thing called "socialism" which is headed straight for us. say bye bye to the bill of rights lol
    Na I'm not worried a lick a bit.
    so Amendment you think we will still have guns you are willing to risk loseing that right for what?

    I want to understand why you feel so cool about Obama!

    ”The great body of our citizens shoot less as times goes on. We should encourage rifle practice among schoolboys, and indeed among all classes, as well as in the military services by every means in our power. Thus, and not otherwise, may we be able to assist in preserving peace in the world… The first step – in the direction of preparation to avert war if possible, and to be fit for war if it should come – is to teach men to shoot!”
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    yo101jimmy wrote:
    Amendment 2 wrote:
    b1ack5mith wrote:
    also theres a thing called "socialism" which is headed straight for us. say bye bye to the bill of rights lol
    Na I'm not worried a lick a bit.
    so Amendment you think we will still have guns you are willing to risk loseing that right for what?

    I want to understand why you feel so cool about Obama!
    Well unless I'm wrong which is possible. The reason I'm not worried about losing our guns is because it will most likely never happen because we have a thing like i said called the The United States Constitution also the bill of rights. Now unless all my teachers have been wrong which I doubt they have. It would take decades to change this stuff or unless we got overruled by another country it will just not happen. Plus I know myself and most likely every other U.S. citizen would revolt.

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    do you believe it is constitutional to have to obtain a permit to conceal a gun?


    ”The great body of our citizens shoot less as times goes on. We should encourage rifle practice among schoolboys, and indeed among all classes, as well as in the military services by every means in our power. Thus, and not otherwise, may we be able to assist in preserving peace in the world… The first step – in the direction of preparation to avert war if possible, and to be fit for war if it should come – is to teach men to shoot!”
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    yo101jimmy wrote:
    do you believe it is constitutional to have to obtain a permit to conceal a gun?

    Ya know I honestly can not answer that I would have to research and get back to you on that. But I will say that no matter what happens every american citizen that is eligible has that right to bear arms and no one can take that away because that is handwritten in INK.

    I will say though I think to be able to conceal a gun is a privledge and can be easily taken away just like a drivers license.

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    I am bearing arms. it does not state what kind of arms or how I may carry it. correct? you might feel I am wrong but the laws they set are only hurting the citizen that is willing to do what it takes for the country not the criminal's THEY STILL CONCEAL and when they get caught yeah slapped on the hand they get back out and do it again.

    I just feel I should be able to carry my firearm anyways I want with out any permit.
    Because you have to have one I am not being able to do so. Its not because I cant its because I feel it is wrong for me to pay the government money for me to do that.

    ”The great body of our citizens shoot less as times goes on. We should encourage rifle practice among schoolboys, and indeed among all classes, as well as in the military services by every means in our power. Thus, and not otherwise, may we be able to assist in preserving peace in the world… The first step – in the direction of preparation to avert war if possible, and to be fit for war if it should come – is to teach men to shoot!”
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    yo101jimmy wrote:
    I am bearing arms. it does not state what kind of arms or how I may carry it.Â* correct? you might feel I am wrong but the laws they set are only hurting the citizen that is willing to do what it takes for the country not the criminal's THEY STILL CONCEAL and when they get caught yeah slapped on the hand they get back out and do it again.

    I just feel I should be able to carry my firearm anyways I want with out any permit.
    Â* Because you have to have one I am not being able to do so. Its not because I cant its because I feel it is wrong for me to pay the government money for me to do that.
    Well correct me if I'm wrong but if I recall the United States Supreme Court just recently ruled that bear arms means guns http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/court-a...e-on-gun-case/ PLEASE LOOK.

    Now I do agree with you there are some laws that hurt citizens and criminals will always do what they want unlike law abiding citizens. I also do not have a CCP because one I like to open carry and it is more comfortable for me 2nd I plan on becoming LEO soon and will have no need for one. I'm also going to say it sounds like you CC without a permit if this is true I would advise not to do that. Because that would make you a criminal. If you do not though disregard that comment.

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    Phew!!...CCing without a CFP! thats risky...I (Permit-less) only CC on private property, with permission - of course.

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    I do not CC! I do not have a permit and no I dont break laws. But I feel that I shouldnt have to have a permit. Now a class to get it isnt bad but haveing to carry a permit is to me wrong.



    Thats my thoughts!



    By the way sorry I might have pulled this one off topic! now I did it dang

    forgive me



    ”The great body of our citizens shoot less as times goes on. We should encourage rifle practice among schoolboys, and indeed among all classes, as well as in the military services by every means in our power. Thus, and not otherwise, may we be able to assist in preserving peace in the world… The first step – in the direction of preparation to avert war if possible, and to be fit for war if it should come – is to teach men to shoot!”
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    yo101jimmy wrote:
    I do not CC! I do not have a permit and no I dont break laws. But I feel that I shouldnt have to have a permit. Now a class to get it isnt bad but haveing to carry a permit is to me wrong.

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    Thats my thoughts!

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    By the way sorry I might have pulled this one off topic! now I did it dang

    forgive me

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    nothing to be sorry about it's just chit chat and debate

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    "When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
    Thomas Jefferson (attributed without source)


    wouldn't that make us "home grown terrorists"


    "You [should] not examine legislation in the light of the benefits it will convey if properly administered, but in the light of the wrongs it would do and the harm it would cause if improperly administered."
    Lyndon B. Johnson (1908-1973) 37th US President (1963-1969)

    to bad that it seems like thats not the case





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    guys... unconstitutional acts go on EVERY DAY and no one is held responsible. While i AGREE and share the same ideas that most of you have: You need to understand that we are losing, everything - fast. AND - it just seems like talk. Talk without action is just talk, and we are going to keep losing.

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    this country is incredibly defiled, its NOT the country it once was... BUT, we can take it back! home grown terrorism... that is their way of scaring everyone! if EVERY(well atleast half) of the population were "Minutemen" (like in the patriot with mel gibson) then who would be the homegrown terrorists? us? or the other people who are against US? well, seeing as WE are the government, the other people who oppose US would be the terrorists.

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