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I do not CC! I do not have a permit and no I dont break laws. But I feel that I shouldnt have to have a permit. Now a class to get it isnt bad but haveing to carry a permit is to me wrong.



Thats my thoughts!



By the way sorry I might have pulled this one off topic! now I did it dang:banghead:

forgive me
 
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yo101jimmy wrote:
I do not CC! I do not have a permit and no I dont break laws. But I feel that I shouldnt have to have a permit. Now a class to get it isnt bad but haveing to carry a permit is to me wrong.

 

Thats my thoughts!

 

By the way sorry I might have pulled this one off topic! now I did it dang:banghead:

forgive me

 
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nothing to be sorry about it's just chit chat and debate
 
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"When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government."
Thomas Jefferson (attributed without source)

wouldn't that make us "home grown terrorists"


[align=left]"You [should] not examine legislation in the light of the benefits it will convey if properly administered, but in the light of the wrongs it would do and the harm it would cause if improperly administered."
Lyndon B. Johnson (1908-1973) 37th US President (1963-1969)[/align]
[align=left]to bad that it seems like thats not the case[/align]
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this country is incredibly defiled, its NOT the country it once was... BUT, we can take it back! home grown terrorism... that is their way of scaring everyone! if EVERY(well atleast half) of the population were "Minutemen" (like in the patriot with mel gibson) then who would be the homegrown terrorists? us? or the other people who are against US? well, seeing as WE are the government, the other people who oppose US would be the terrorists.
 
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b1ack5mith wrote:
this country is incredibly defiled, its NOT the country it once was... BUT, we can take it back! home grown terrorism... that is their way of scaring everyone! if EVERY(well atleast half) of the population were "Minutemen" (like in the patriot with mel gibson) then who would be the homegrown terrorists? us? or the other people who are against US? well, seeing as WE are the government, the other people who oppose US would be the terrorists.
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Ya, im with ya - YOU tell the Government that; with their Tanks, Humvee's, unlimited Ammunitions, Automatic weapons, AT-4 Shoulder assisted Launchers, Infrared, NV, Body Armor and all the other cool shit you and I aren't allowed....

In fact, this topic ALONE is enough for Homeland Security to reserve a Suite at Guantanamo Bay for ya (one, anyone)... WHY? Because they CAN, and do...
 
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Amendment 2 wrote:
....Not disarm americans like you and I from owning our guns.... :what:
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OBAMA: On Gun Control
  • Ok for states & cities to determine local gun laws.
  • FactCheck: Yes, Obama endorsed Illinois handgun ban.
  • Respect 2nd Amendment, but local gun bans ok.
  • Provide some common-sense enforcement on gun licensing.
  • 2000: cosponsored bill to limit purchases to 1 gun per month.
  • Concealed carry OK for retired police officers.
  • Stop unscrupulous gun dealers dumping guns in cities.
  • Keep guns out of inner cities--but also problem of morality.
  • Bush erred in failing to renew assault weapons ban.
  • Ban semi-automatics, and more possession restrictions.
  • Voted NO on prohibiting lawsuits against gun manufacturers.
http://www.ontheissues.org/Barack_Obama.htm

You were saying?! Or do we need to get a POLL going on the fourm to see what the ownership ratio of semi-autos to Bolt-action is? C'Mon, use your brain dude...
 
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Anyway you look at Obama he is still very anti-gun and his voting history shows it over and over again. Just by going to his website will not give you the whole picture. If the NRA is not supporting him then that should say a lot right their.
 
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Presidents lie all the time ,How do you think they get elected. All of them are going to fix social security and make it better for the people. There just trying to get the votes of the anti gunners by saying they will disarm america BS. FFFFu$% obama and his party.
 
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ProtectedBy9mm wrote:
b1ack5mith wrote:
this country is incredibly defiled, its NOT the country it once was... BUT, we can take it back! home grown terrorism... that is their way of scaring everyone! if EVERY(well atleast half) of the population were "Minutemen" (like in the patriot with mel gibson) then who would be the homegrown terrorists? us? or the other people who are against US? well, seeing as WE are the government, the other people who oppose US would be the terrorists.
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Ya, im with ya - YOU tell the Government that; with their Tanks, Humvee's, unlimited Ammunitions, Automatic weapons, AT-4 Shoulder assisted Launchers, Infrared, NV, Body Armor and all the other cool @#$% you and I aren't allowed....

In fact, this topic ALONE is enough for Homeland Security to reserve a Suite at Guantanamo Bay for ya (one, anyone)... WHY? Because they CAN, and do...
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well i dont believe that the AMERICAN soldiers would be sent in to do the dirty work, they would send all of our troops to a different country, and bring in the U.N. or something to do it. our troops wouldnt kill us. and i dont believe that using my right to free speech will have me thrown in guantanamo... seeing as all of these reverends and crap are saying "kill all white people" etc... and gettin away with it.
 
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well i dont believe that the AMERICAN soldiers would be sent in to do the dirty work,
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Already been done man. You forgot how we were disarmed When Katrina hit? Ya, i don't forget. What was their excuse? Oh right, it was a hostile environment...isn't that when you WANT your guns? Police and Natinal Guard, btw..

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-368034430006732400

Wake Up, only a matter of time when "Soldiers" are next in line...

Where's my tin-foil hat!?
 
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Unfortunately Osama is going to win. McCain made a huge mistake picking a person who has zero experience, is horrible at interviews (but was coached well for the debates) and comes off to many to be a religious nutbag who truly believes dinosaurs were roaming the Earth a mere few thousand years ago.

But she sure is pretty :banghead:

One day soon we're going to have to come to the realization that we are becoming more and more French (liberal) as a society and I'm afraid by the time we as a people realize this it will be too late. I'm all for liberalism....but like anything I'm for it in moderation. Gay marriage, yes. Womens rights, yes. Pussifying our country and pushing for quasi-socialism, hell no.

Hopefully after the next four years we will collectively pull our heads out of our asses and come to the conclusion that Reagan conservatism really was the best our country has been in our generation.
 
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GenkiSudo wrote:
Unfortunately Osama is going to win. McCain made a huge mistake picking a person who has zero experience, is horrible at interviews (but was coached well for the debates) and comes off to many to be a religious nutbag who truly believes dinosaurs were roaming the Earth a mere few thousand years ago.

But she sure is pretty :banghead:

One day soon we're going to have to come to the realization that we are becoming more and more French (liberal) as a society and I'm afraid by the time we as a people realize this it will be too late. I'm all for liberalism....but like anything I'm for it in moderation. Gay marriage, yes. Womens rights, yes. Pussifying our country and pushing for quasi-socialism, hell no.

Hopefully after the next four years we will collectively pull our heads out of our asses and come to the conclusion that Reagan conservatism really was the best our country has been in our generation.
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dinosaurs DID roam the earth a few thousand years ago...
 
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thoughtpolice wrote:
ProtectedBy9mm wrote:
Already been done man. You forgot how we were disarmed When Katrina hit? Ya, i don't forget. What was their excuse? Oh right, it was a hostile environment...isn't that when you WANT your guns? Police and Natinal Guard, btw..
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Isnt there now a law stating that we cant be disarmed during a State Emergency in Utah?
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Yes there is and if i'm correct it was passed earlier this year
 
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mdgary wrote:
Presidents lie all the time ,How do you think they get elected. All of them are going to fix social security and make it better for the people. There just trying to get the votes of the anti gunners by saying they will disarm america BS. FFFFu$% obama and his party.
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I agree with this
 
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GenkiSudo wrote:
Unfortunately Osama is going to win. [Democrats] made a huge mistake picking a person who has zero experience, is horrible at [public speaking] (but [performs] well [on teleprompter]) and comes off to many to be a religious nutbag who truly believes [America is an evil empire].

But [the media sure loves him] :banghead:
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This hypocrisy baffles me! How can ANYONE accuse the GOP VP of inexperience when the DEM Presidential candidate has LESS experience? As for interviews, off teleprompter, NObama cannot string two sentences together without an um or ah.

As for what he would do to the 2A, can you see a return of the AWB? Have you seen the latest proposal? He continues to say that he only supports common sense gun controls but has stated on more than one occation that Chicago has resonable gun laws; you can't own a handgun in Chicago. He said that DC had resonable gun laws but he changed his talking points after the Heller decision.

Then there are the of topic (for this forum) issues. In a time of economic crisis, he wants to increase government funding of social issues by $1 Trillion while cutting defense spending and increase taxes on productive citizens to give money to the unproductive.

WHY THE [:cuss:] IS HE DOING SO WELL IN THE POLLS?
 
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