They Pulled My permit

Detour wrote:

Should or could I file a report or complaint on that Officer at his department and also file it on him at the county and maybe send a copy to the Alabama Bearue of investigation????

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Not yet - see above.

Yata hey

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Also check with the Captian D's manager.
They might have security tapes that show the incident
since you were approached at the counter.
Get them before the LEO destroy them.

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Hello,

I'm new here so forgive me for ifI post this in wrong place

I'm in Marshall County Alabama and I have been open carry for 6 months now and have had officers question me asking ifI was a cop and after telling them noI was not they then say you cant carry your weapon in the open. WellI had already seen this open carry site and had the AG's Opinion, called the attorney that helped Mr Mathis a (Mr. Hooper), the NRA, the DA of my county and also the Marshall County Sheriffs Office. Well it seems the only one who has told me open carry was illegal was the Sheriffs Office and local Police Officers.

The first time my permit was pulled was 3 months ago. I was at a store and 2 county Deputy's were there one pointed to my Beretta 92FS with crimson trace laser sites and said whats that. Daaaaaaaaa soI told him he said you cant carry that in the open, I then told meI had some paper work from an attorney and from the AG's office stating ocw was legal in Alabama and had also had talked with the AG's office and had been trying to get the Sheriffs office to confirm it but they didn't want to hear it or really see any paper workI had and stated unlessI had something from the Governor or the Sheriff saying thatI could ocw and ifI didn't put it in my truckI would go to jail soI told them out of respect for him and that badge thatI would do as hetold me as I was going to see my mom at the nursing home ( and noI wasn't going to take it in the nursing home). SoI put it in my truck. I went to the Sheriffs Office the next morning and the Deputy chief said the same thing and pounded on his desk that Alabama was not an ocw state and ifI did it again he would pull my permit and he didn't want to see anythingI had on it that he would look in to it himself if it was legal. SoI said OK ill ccw or leave it at home till you find out.

WellI called the NRA and got some advise and thought well ifthe Sheriffs office wouldn't look at my paper work when i had then ill fax it to them andI did so at 11:50 am and at 4:30 pm the same 2 Deputy's that first told meI couldn't do ocwcame to pick my permit up . I gave it to him and he saidI guess you can open carry now and kinda had my permit up a Lil waving it at me and said but you know you have to have the permit when you are in that truck. I said ohhhhhhhhI see 3 days ago ocw was illegal and cant but now it is and you take my permit knowing I have to have it when in a vehicle.

So I had faxed the same stuff to the DA's office and he called me on a Sunday of all days. He said he was aware of the ocw in Alabama and would call talk to the Sheriffs office and ifI didn't hear from them by 4 pm the next day call him back.

Lets just sayI got it back 2 days later there's more to this but in short on this part of it i drew up a paper saying i could ocw or ccw with 8 different variations and the Sheriff signed it.

So, on a SundayI was ocw in Captain D'sand I met my wife there and noticed a Boaz city cop car we go in order andI go get our drinks, forks and things and to find a table. I see the cop sitting with some of his family or friends and i pass his table well when my wife come to table I noticed some of my food was wrong asI go to counter to exchange the officer comes up to me and ask if I am a cop.I said no he ask why do you have that gun and i say for self-defense and personal protection. Well he says the same thing Ive heard over and over you cant carry that in open I'm a cop andI cant carry like that off duty . I saidI have some paper work in my truck stating thatI can. He ask me for ID and ifI had a permit and i said yes to carry concealed on or about me or in a vehicle but thatI was on foot. He took my ID and called in on radio he was out with a 1032 (man with gun) . I ask him if he would please just look at my paper work I could show him I even had an agreement with the Sheriff. Well when my ID came back clear and he said again I'm telling you you cant carry like that he grabbed my serpa lever 2 holster took out my pistol popped the clip out and pulled the slide and ejected the round and had activated my laser light.

All this was at the counter mind you. I told him we could do this outside and ask again please just look at my paper work that the DA's office said to keep in my truck for me to show any officer. Finally he goes to my truck still telling me i cant do that and says hes not going to argue with me about it and to prove his point he was taking my weapon and permit. So i show him my papers and it didn't do any good.

He told me ifI wanted it backI would have to talk with his Chief. SoI talk with him and he says if the DA wont press charges then you can come get the pistol back but if he does ill swear out a warrant on you andthe Chief said he would call me the next day, I said OK but if you get a warrant call ill come turn my self in .

Well, didn't hear anything Monday or Tuesday soI called on Wednesday and he said come get your pistol but you have to go to county to get the permit. I went to get my weapon and was missing 2 bullets. I go to the Sheriffs office and Chief Deputy saidI couldn't have it back thatI got into a conflict with an officer and he wasn't going to talk about saidI was alarming the public. He saidI could never get it back.

Ive never in 6 months had anyone call the police to me on me or anything all my encounters have been with cops that were already at the place whereI was at. I have even had 4 other Boaz city cops ask me about the same thing andI showed them my paper work and they sent me on my way

The officer that night even said you come in here with shorts (Tommy Hilfiger Khaki to be honest)tee shirt and flip-flops. I said well OfficerI didn't know there was a dress code to carry a weapon. I don't think he liked that.

Any way likeI said I'm new to this place and forgive my typing and English as you can see its well not good loll...

SoI got my pistol and no permit. As you can see the law here in my county is you are either with us or against us.The Sheriff saidI was alarming the public but yet Ive had no calls if soI thinkI would be first to know as any cop in radio distance would be all over me guns drawn and so on..So see it went to its illegal to now you are alarming the public

Sorry for being so long winded. Does anyone have any ides or thoughts on this

Thanks

DETOUR

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Also check with the Captian D's manager.
They might have security tapes that show the incident
since you were approached at the counter.
Get them before the LEO destroy them.

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this link is supposed to be a list of RTKABA attorneys in the states hope it helps



http://home.comcast.net/~dsmjd/tux/dsmjd/law/lawr_list.htm

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Good Find 45-ACP

Unfortunatly the 2 lawyers mentioned are in South Alabama. However one mention in Marietta GA is only 3 hours from Marshall County. It's likely he can practice in Alabama.

I wounder if any of the Lawyers that work with GeorgiaCarry.org would be interested in looking into this case?

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( You'vegotto stand for somethin'..... or you'll fall for anything) Aaron Tippin

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Detour wrote:

( You'vegotto stand for somethin'..... or you'll fall for anything) Aaron Tippin

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One of my favorite songs. I'm glad to hear you are ready to make your case heard. Both for your self and the great bennefit it can bring to other gun owners. I'm sore it will be a small crowd rallying behind you intill the ball gets rolling, but we will all do what we can to recruit more support! I'm glad to hear you have been trying to make contact with lawyers. I wait eargerly to hear that you have selected one!

I'm sending you a PM with my personal e-mail and phone number. I look forward to doing what I can to help.

Maybe next time i'm up in that area we can grab some lunch at Capn D's! :lol:

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