Alexcabbie
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:what:Okay, take a minute and wipe the spit-take you just did off the monitor. I just think that if it is a good idea to restore the voting franchise to convicted felons so they can vote for Ubama, then it is an even better idea to recognize that if they are out of the Criminal Justice System (Off parole, probation, with no sentence left to serve), then it only makes sense to return their 2nd Amendment rights. That will for one thing give them a good reason NOT to vote for Ubama.
After all there is NO enumerated "right to vote", and no "right" to a government job etc; which is why the voting franchise restoration procedure is here in the Commonwealth referred to as "Petition for Removal of Civil Disabilities". But convicted felons retain every OTHER right in the Constitution unless they are still under conditions of release. A convicted felon may very well have learned his lesson, amd many do go back into society and marry and father children and thus have families to protect. And who knows but what the stigma of a felony conviction is a causal factor in recidivism??
More important however is the question of why someone who cannot be trusted with a firearm is allowed back among us in the FIRST place?? This is not specious reasoning. If an ex-con is criminally inclined he will very easily obtain a firearm through the usual criminal channels, and inmany if not mostcases with greater ease than an honest citizen can purchase one legally. In fact if someone wanted a firearm for the express purpose of nefarious activtity one would think he would much prefer one that could not be linked to him via purchase records.
Finally consider the puny, trumpery crimes that constitute felonies in many, many cases. Here in Virginia a kid (or an adult in a sily mood) can be arrested for throwing a snowball at a car on the road. it's called "Throwing a Missile at an Occupied Vehicle" It is a Class 6 felony here and there are - unbelievablbly but true - cases of mischevious teens getting a juvenile felony which becomes a 2A nightmare later in life. Another Class 6 felony is "Driving over a fire hose". Can you imagine telling your cell mate that you are in for driving over a hose?? In THAT case maybe the "felon" should be issued a sidearm by the Warden, lest he wind up riding on a hose, indeed. And then there is the infamous "Misdemeanor Domestic Violence" revocation, which is ditto for life. IMHO the revocation should be only so long as a court order exists, with clear rules for justifying extensions of the order.
Now my Bretheren and Sisteren (and in at least one case Whateveren) it is my hope that you realize that this was written partially with tongue (or keyboard if you will but that's a tight fit) in cheek. The subtitle Should clue everybody in, but just as there are nourishing kernels in cow pies I believe that what I have written here as satire has that element of truth that makes satire what it is.
:what:Okay, take a minute and wipe the spit-take you just did off the monitor. I just think that if it is a good idea to restore the voting franchise to convicted felons so they can vote for Ubama, then it is an even better idea to recognize that if they are out of the Criminal Justice System (Off parole, probation, with no sentence left to serve), then it only makes sense to return their 2nd Amendment rights. That will for one thing give them a good reason NOT to vote for Ubama.
After all there is NO enumerated "right to vote", and no "right" to a government job etc; which is why the voting franchise restoration procedure is here in the Commonwealth referred to as "Petition for Removal of Civil Disabilities". But convicted felons retain every OTHER right in the Constitution unless they are still under conditions of release. A convicted felon may very well have learned his lesson, amd many do go back into society and marry and father children and thus have families to protect. And who knows but what the stigma of a felony conviction is a causal factor in recidivism??
More important however is the question of why someone who cannot be trusted with a firearm is allowed back among us in the FIRST place?? This is not specious reasoning. If an ex-con is criminally inclined he will very easily obtain a firearm through the usual criminal channels, and inmany if not mostcases with greater ease than an honest citizen can purchase one legally. In fact if someone wanted a firearm for the express purpose of nefarious activtity one would think he would much prefer one that could not be linked to him via purchase records.
Finally consider the puny, trumpery crimes that constitute felonies in many, many cases. Here in Virginia a kid (or an adult in a sily mood) can be arrested for throwing a snowball at a car on the road. it's called "Throwing a Missile at an Occupied Vehicle" It is a Class 6 felony here and there are - unbelievablbly but true - cases of mischevious teens getting a juvenile felony which becomes a 2A nightmare later in life. Another Class 6 felony is "Driving over a fire hose". Can you imagine telling your cell mate that you are in for driving over a hose?? In THAT case maybe the "felon" should be issued a sidearm by the Warden, lest he wind up riding on a hose, indeed. And then there is the infamous "Misdemeanor Domestic Violence" revocation, which is ditto for life. IMHO the revocation should be only so long as a court order exists, with clear rules for justifying extensions of the order.
Now my Bretheren and Sisteren (and in at least one case Whateveren) it is my hope that you realize that this was written partially with tongue (or keyboard if you will but that's a tight fit) in cheek. The subtitle Should clue everybody in, but just as there are nourishing kernels in cow pies I believe that what I have written here as satire has that element of truth that makes satire what it is.
