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    Give McCain a "F" grade.


    http://www.huntersandshooters.com/

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    Dukester wrote:
    Give McCain a "F" grade.


    http://www.huntersandshooters.com/
    Not suprising, American Hunters and Shooters is just a deceptively named pro gun control group.

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    Yep!

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    Dukester wrote:
    Give McCain a "F" grade.


    http://www.huntersandshooters.com/
    Funny they give no grade for Obama.:?

    ETA And they gave the NRA an F, no grade for McCain either.

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    Did you really think gun folks would fall for that? Maybe apathetic "hunters" that don't pay attention to their 2nd amendment rights might, but anyone who gives a crap knows that AHSA is funded by the Brady Campaign.

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    Not convinced that this is a legitimate membership organization rather than a Brady campaign front.

    What is your proof?



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    The Donkey wrote:
    Not convinced that this is a legitimate membership organization rather than a Brady campaign front.

    What is your proof?

    Donkey,

    Everybody knows what a false flag is. The president of this organization was campaigning for Barak long before the organization's endorsement.

    I liked you better when you were honest about Barak the gun grabber and said simply you were voting for him for other reasons.

    Believe me I think the NRA has really shot itself in the foot (pun intended) after all McPain is no real friend of RKBA, but at least he has a VP who supports gun rights.

    Biden is a hypocritical Ass on RKBA and you know it. Look at the sarcastic crap he said in the democratic You Tube Debate.

    Look at the groups policy making... weigh gun rights against security, "reasonable" gun laws. Yeah, D.C thought their gun ban was a reasonable law.
    He wore his gun outside his pants for all the honest world to see. Pancho & Lefty

    The millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us....There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! ...The war is inevitable–and let it come! I repeat it, Sir, let it come …………. PATRICK HENRY speech 1776

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    The Donkey wrote:
    Not convinced that this is a legitimate membership organization rather than a Brady campaign front.

    What is your proof?

    Â*
    You may just want to google it, there is just too much info to post.
    Basically all of its leadership are either founders,members or donate heavily to anti-gun organizations. Examples are Jon Rosenthal who founded "Stop Handgun Violence" which lobbied for the current Mass gun registration measures. or Ray Schoenke who has donated heavily to "Handgun Control inc"

    Googling for information about the group gives all sorts of additional info on them. I have never even seen it disputed that they are a pro-gun control group with a deceptive name. No actual hunters and shooters group seems to like them. The last numbers I saw said they had less than 200 members paying $25 a year, with an operating budget of $500,000 dollars. Where does that money come from? However, those numbers are old and I am sure out of date.

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    Well being that I have never met anyone claiming to be a member, I suspect their funding must come from some members with really deep pockets. The term astroturf comes to mind.

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    Astroturf like in BJClinton(spit)'s pickup truck? EEeeww.

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    The Donkey wrote:
    Not convinced that this is a legitimate membership organization rather than a Brady campaign front.

    What is your proof?

    You're right, it isn't a legitimate membership organization to be convinced about, as it is a Brady campaign front.

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    These PINKO's are the first to holler PROOF! About ANYTHING! Look... you NObamabots can take your commiepropaganda elsewhere.. 'cause we're not stupid. We wont fall for it.... or the clap-trap BS of your 'fearless leader'. 'American Hunters and Shooters' has sent me their brochure's for membership a couple times... Each have been tossed in the trash. It's a Brady front group. :X

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    The Donkey wrote:
    Not convinced that this is a legitimate membership organization rather than a Brady campaign front.

    What is your proof?
    The leadership roster.
    Public positions.

    You're not convinced either.

    You're just willing to lie about it... as you lie about everything else in support of Obama.

    Insulting gunowners' intelligence with mind-numbingly stupid lies won't win you one vote.
    --- Gun control: The theory that 110lb. women have the "right" to fistfight with 210lb. rapists.

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    Deanimator wrote:
    The Donkey wrote:
    Not convinced that this is a legitimate membership organization rather than a Brady campaign front.

    What is your proof?
    The leadership roster.
    Public positions.

    You're not convinced either.

    You're just willing to lie about it... as you lie about everything else in support of Obama.

    Insulting gunowners' intelligence with mind-numbingly stupid lies won't win you one vote.
    Lie? Kind of like Palin!

    Their campaign is going down in flames anyway not even the NRA can save them...

    Yep, the ruling on TrooperGate came out just a few minutes ago and the Governor was found that she did indeed misuse her office...

    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the...obe_finds.html

    http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...vote42844824=1

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    These PINKO's are the first to holler PROOF! About ANYTHING! Look... you NObamabots can take your commiepropaganda elsewhere.. 'cause we're not stupid. We wont fall for it.... or the clap-trap BS of your 'fearless leader'. 'American Hunters and Shooters' has sent me their brochure's for membership a couple times... Each have been tossed in the trash. It's a Brady front group. :X
    Who's calling you stupid? Your just a CON!



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    Dukester wrote:
    Deanimator wrote:
    The Donkey wrote:
    Not convinced that this is a legitimate membership organization rather than a Brady campaign front.

    What is your proof?
    The leadership roster.
    Public positions.

    You're not convinced either.

    You're just willing to lie about it... as you lie about everything else in support of Obama.

    Insulting gunowners' intelligence with mind-numbingly stupid lies won't win you one vote.
    Lie? Kind of like Palin!
    Notice how you had to change the subject because you couldn't defend AHSA?

    AHSA is every bit the pathetic sham that David Duke's NAAWP was... and just as doomed to oblivion.
    --- Gun control: The theory that 110lb. women have the "right" to fistfight with 210lb. rapists.

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    Sonora Rebel wrote:
    These PINKO's are the first to holler PROOF! About ANYTHING! Look... you NObamabots
    Look Sonora in this forum theytechnically are notNObamabots. In this forum when you trust gun grabbers you are a zombie. Those that trust Barak Hussein Obama with their guns are ...





    Nobamazombies.
    He wore his gun outside his pants for all the honest world to see. Pancho & Lefty

    The millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us....There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! ...The war is inevitable–and let it come! I repeat it, Sir, let it come …………. PATRICK HENRY speech 1776

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    Thundar wrote:
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    These PINKO's are the first to holler PROOF! About ANYTHING! Look... you NObamabots
    Look Sonora in this forum theytechnically are notNObamabots. In this forum when you trust gun grabbers you are a zombie. Those that trust Barak Hussein Obama with their guns are ...





    Nobamazombies.
    This almost got me to shoot Mt. Dew through my nose.

    Anyone that trusts their guns to an elected official is a fool! BHO and JSM are both horrible. One is to the Left of Stalin and the other is only slightly to the Right of the first (you decide who is who).

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    I do note that it is impossible (well, to my efforts) to find any "about us" information on their site about WHO is AHSA. Like, officers, directors, supporters? In fact, the "contact us" is "page not found".

    D'ya suppose there's a reason for that?
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    they don't want you to see the @brady.org post texts on the e-mail addys?

    Donkey wrote:
    What is your proof?
    well, here is one thing for starters:


    According to legal memoranda filed in court by the United States Justice Department, the Second Amendment allows for the passage of reasonable laws designed to keep guns out of the wrong hands. Under the Constitution and laws of the United States, gun ownership is a protected right. But it is a right that when exercised requires the utmost in responsibility and vigilance. In formulating AHSA legislative policy the AHSA Board of Directors will always weigh the common sense interest of hunters and shooters against basic safety and security interests of our community at large. In this way a rational, well thought out approach to firearms policy will be developed and promoted.
    http://www.huntersandshooters.org/issues/gunrights



    The Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence and its legislative and grassroots affiliate, the Brady Campaign and its dedicated network of Million Mom March Chapters, is the nation's largest, non-partisan, grassroots organization leading the fight to prevent gun violence. We are devoted to creating an America free from gun violence, where all Americans are safe at home, at school, at work, and in our communities. As the Brady Campaign, we work to enact and enforce sensible gun laws, regulations, and public policies through grassroots activism, electing public officials who support gun laws, and increasing public awareness of gun violence. Through our Million Mom March Chapters, we work locally to educate, remember victims, and pass sensible gun laws, believing that children have the right to grow up in environments free from the threat of gun violence. As the Brady Center, we work to reform the gun industry by enacting and enforcing sensible regulations to reduce gun violence, including regulations governing the gun industry. In addition, we educate the public about gun violence through litigation, grassroots mobilization, and outreach to affected communities.
    http://www.bradycenter.org/about/


    you could almost imagine that they were written by the same hand.

    keywords like these are used universally throughout the anti-gun lobby.

    these phrases are not only dangerous, but deceiving as well.

    let's look at the rundown on what they mean:

    "sensible"- regulating guns out of existence

    "common sense" only the military and LEO should own them

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    Thundar wrote:
    Sonora Rebel wrote:
    These PINKO's are the first to holler PROOF! About ANYTHING! Look... you NObamabots
    Look Sonora in this forum theytechnically are notNObamabots. In this forum when you trust gun grabbers you are a zombie. Those that trust Barak Hussein Obama with their guns are ...





    Nobamazombies.
    Sweet! I'll have my AR-15 just in time for the zombie attack! Hmm...better go order more ammo...

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    These PINKO's are the first to holler PROOF! About ANYTHING! Look... you NObamabots can take your commiepropaganda elsewhere.. 'cause we're not stupid. We wont fall for it.... or the clap-trap BS of your 'fearless leader'. 'American Hunters and Shooters' has sent me their brochure's for membership a couple times... Each have been tossed in the trash. It's a Brady front group. :X
    Gee, there are somewhere in between 70,000,000 and 80,000,000 gun owners in the country and only 3 or 4 million NRA Members. Boy, what a disparity. Do you think there's a lot of gun owners out there who aren't exactly on board with the NRA?

    Your nothing more than a Fascist. Voting for McCain would be suicidal.

    Go ahead and peddle your Nazi BS somewhere else, it doesn't belong here!

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    Ooooh my Dukester, there's only 5 million or therebouts NRA members,,yes and 70 million or more gun owners. But guess what,no offense to some that don't like the NRA,,but guess what,,most of us vote. The other 65-75 million gun owners are apathetic. If they won't join the NRA at least they aren't a zombie and will probably vote against a proven ant-gunner,,unlike yourself who can only spout nObabma party line dribble.
    ‘‘Laws that forbid the carrying of arms... disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.’’ Thomas Jefferson

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    Dukester wrote:
    Sonora Rebel wrote:
    These PINKO's are the first to holler PROOF! About ANYTHING! Look... you NObamabots can take your commiepropaganda elsewhere.. 'cause we're not stupid. We wont fall for it.... or the clap-trap BS of your 'fearless leader'. 'American Hunters and Shooters' has sent me their brochure's for membership a couple times... Each have been tossed in the trash. It's a Brady front group. :X
    Gee, there are somewhere in between 70,000,000 and 80,000,000 gun owners in the country and only 3 or 4 million NRA Members. Boy, what a disparity. Do you think there's a lot of gun owners out there who aren't exactly on board with the NRA?

    Your nothing more than a Fascist. Voting for McCain would be suicidal.

    Go ahead and peddle your Nazi BS somewhere else, it doesn't belong here!
    How many Quislings are there in AHSA? George Michael has had sex with more strangers in parks... last week.

    AHSA's a joke... just not as big a joke as you.

    I can't make you stop lying.

    You can't make me believe you.
    --- Gun control: The theory that 110lb. women have the "right" to fistfight with 210lb. rapists.

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    The Democratic Party falls more in line with the values of the Nazi's more then any other party.

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