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mkl
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Dukester wrote:
Not suprising, American Hunters and Shooters is just a deceptively named pro gun control group.
Dukester wrote:
Not suprising, American Hunters and Shooters is just a deceptively named pro gun control group.
Sonora Rebel
Regular Member
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Yep!
Yep!
longwatch
Founder's Club Member - Moderator
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Dukester wrote:
ETA And they gave the NRA an F, no grade for McCain either.
Dukester wrote:
Funny they give no grade for Obama.:?
ETA And they gave the NRA an F, no grade for McCain either.
Slayer of Paper
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Did you really think gun folks would fall for that? Maybe apathetic "hunters" that don't pay attention to their 2nd amendment rights might, but anyone who gives a crap knows that AHSA is funded by the Brady Campaign.
Did you really think gun folks would fall for that? Maybe apathetic "hunters" that don't pay attention to their 2nd amendment rights might, but anyone who gives a crap knows that AHSA is funded by the Brady Campaign.
The Donkey
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Not convinced that this is a legitimate membership organization rather than a Brady campaign front.
What is your proof?
Not convinced that this is a legitimate membership organization rather than a Brady campaign front.
What is your proof?
Thundar
Regular Member
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The Donkey wrote:
Donkey,
Everybody knows what a false flag is. The president of this organization was campaigning for Barak long before the organization's endorsement.
I liked you better when you were honest about Barak the gun grabber and said simply you were voting for him for other reasons.
Believe me I think the NRA has really shot itself in the foot (pun intended) after all McPain is no real friend of RKBA, but at least he has a VP who supports gun rights.
Biden is a hypocritical Ass on RKBA and you know it. Look at the sarcastic crap he said in the democratic You Tube Debate.
Look at the groups policy making... weigh gun rights against security, "reasonable" gun laws. Yeah, D.C thought their gun ban was a reasonable law.
The Donkey wrote:
Donkey,
Everybody knows what a false flag is. The president of this organization was campaigning for Barak long before the organization's endorsement.
I liked you better when you were honest about Barak the gun grabber and said simply you were voting for him for other reasons.
Believe me I think the NRA has really shot itself in the foot (pun intended) after all McPain is no real friend of RKBA, but at least he has a VP who supports gun rights.
Biden is a hypocritical Ass on RKBA and you know it. Look at the sarcastic crap he said in the democratic You Tube Debate.
Look at the groups policy making... weigh gun rights against security, "reasonable" gun laws. Yeah, D.C thought their gun ban was a reasonable law.
mkl
Regular Member
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The Donkey wrote:
You may just want to google it, there is just too much info to post.
Basically all of its leadership are either founders,members or donate heavily to anti-gun organizations. Examples are Jon Rosenthal who founded "Stop Handgun Violence" which lobbied for the current Mass gun registration measures. or Ray Schoenke who has donated heavily to "Handgun Control inc"
Googling for information about the group gives all sorts of additional info on them. I have never even seen it disputed that they are a pro-gun control group with a deceptive name. No actual hunters and shooters group seems to like them. The last numbers I saw said they had less than 200 members paying $25 a year, with an operating budget of $500,000 dollars. Where does that money come from? However, those numbers are old and I am sure out of date.
The Donkey wrote:
You may just want to google it, there is just too much info to post.
Basically all of its leadership are either founders,members or donate heavily to anti-gun organizations. Examples are Jon Rosenthal who founded "Stop Handgun Violence" which lobbied for the current Mass gun registration measures. or Ray Schoenke who has donated heavily to "Handgun Control inc"
Googling for information about the group gives all sorts of additional info on them. I have never even seen it disputed that they are a pro-gun control group with a deceptive name. No actual hunters and shooters group seems to like them. The last numbers I saw said they had less than 200 members paying $25 a year, with an operating budget of $500,000 dollars. Where does that money come from? However, those numbers are old and I am sure out of date.
longwatch
Founder's Club Member - Moderator
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Well being that I have never met anyone claiming to be a member, I suspect their funding must come from some members with really deep pockets. The term astroturf comes to mind.
Well being that I have never met anyone claiming to be a member, I suspect their funding must come from some members with really deep pockets. The term astroturf comes to mind.
Doug Huffman
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Astroturf like in BJClinton(spit)'s pickup truck? EEeeww.
Astroturf like in BJClinton(spit)'s pickup truck? EEeeww.
Sonora Rebel
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These PINKO's are the first to holler PROOF! About ANYTHING! Look... you NObamabots can take your commiepropaganda elsewhere.. 'cause we're not stupid. We wont fall for it.... or the clap-trap BS of your 'fearless leader'. 'American Hunters and Shooters' has sent me their brochure's for membership a couple times... Each have been tossed in the trash. It's a Brady front group. :X
These PINKO's are the first to holler PROOF! About ANYTHING! Look... you NObamabots can take your commiepropaganda elsewhere.. 'cause we're not stupid. We wont fall for it.... or the clap-trap BS of your 'fearless leader'. 'American Hunters and Shooters' has sent me their brochure's for membership a couple times... Each have been tossed in the trash. It's a Brady front group. :X
Deanimator
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The Donkey wrote:
Public positions.
You're not convinced either.
You're just willing to lie about it... as you lie about everything else in support of Obama.
Insulting gunowners' intelligence with mind-numbingly stupid lies won't win you one vote.
The Donkey wrote:
The leadership roster.
Public positions.
You're not convinced either.
You're just willing to lie about it... as you lie about everything else in support of Obama.
Insulting gunowners' intelligence with mind-numbingly stupid lies won't win you one vote.
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Guest
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Deanimator wrote:
Their campaign is going down in flames anyway not even the NRA can save them...
Yep, the ruling on TrooperGate came out just a few minutes ago and the Governor was found that she did indeed misuse her office...
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/10/10/alaska_legislative_probe_finds.html
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationw...ate11-2008oct11,0,192217.story?vote42844824=1
Deanimator wrote:
Lie? Kind of like Palin!
Their campaign is going down in flames anyway not even the NRA can save them...
Yep, the ruling on TrooperGate came out just a few minutes ago and the Governor was found that she did indeed misuse her office...
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/10/10/alaska_legislative_probe_finds.html
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationw...ate11-2008oct11,0,192217.story?vote42844824=1
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Sonora Rebel wrote:
:lol:
Sonora Rebel wrote:
Who's calling you stupid? Your just a CON!
:lol:
Deanimator
Regular Member
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Dukester wrote:
AHSA is every bit the pathetic sham that David Duke's NAAWP was... and just as doomed to oblivion.
Dukester wrote:
Notice how you had to change the subject because you couldn't defend AHSA?
AHSA is every bit the pathetic sham that David Duke's NAAWP was... and just as doomed to oblivion.
Thundar
Regular Member
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Sonora Rebel wrote:
Nobamazombies.
Sonora Rebel wrote:
Look Sonora in this forum theytechnically are notNObamabots. In this forum when you trust gun grabbers you are a zombie. Those that trust Barak Hussein Obama with their guns are ...
Nobamazombies.
WCrawford
Regular Member
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Thundar wrote:
This almost got me to shoot Mt. Dew through my nose. :lol:
Anyone that trusts their guns to an elected official is a fool! BHO and JSM are both horrible. One is to the Left of Stalin and the other is only slightly to the Right of the first (you decide who is who).
Thundar wrote:
This almost got me to shoot Mt. Dew through my nose. :lol:
Anyone that trusts their guns to an elected official is a fool! BHO and JSM are both horrible. One is to the Left of Stalin and the other is only slightly to the Right of the first (you decide who is who).
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I do note that it is impossible (well, to my efforts) to find any "about us" information on their site about WHO is AHSA. Like, officers, directors, supporters? In fact, the "contact us" is "page not found".
D'ya suppose there's a reason for that?
I do note that it is impossible (well, to my efforts) to find any "about us" information on their site about WHO is AHSA. Like, officers, directors, supporters? In fact, the "contact us" is "page not found".
D'ya suppose there's a reason for that?
unreconstructed1
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they don't want you to see the @brady.org post texts on the e-mail addys?
Donkey wrote:
you could almost imagine that they were written by the same hand.
keywords like these are used universally throughout the anti-gun lobby.
these phrases are not only dangerous, but deceiving as well.
let's look at the rundown on what they mean:
"sensible"- regulating guns out of existence
"common sense" only the military and LEO should own them
they don't want you to see the @brady.org post texts on the e-mail addys?
Donkey wrote:
well, here is one thing for starters:
http://www.huntersandshooters.org/issues/gunrights
http://www.bradycenter.org/about/
you could almost imagine that they were written by the same hand.
keywords like these are used universally throughout the anti-gun lobby.
these phrases are not only dangerous, but deceiving as well.
let's look at the rundown on what they mean:
"sensible"- regulating guns out of existence
"common sense" only the military and LEO should own them