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What I mean is that if they charge you and they don't have a case well then they don't have a case...

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What I mean is that if they charge you and they don't have a case well then they don't have a case...

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No, you are jaded about how the justice system works. Prosecutors charge people all the time when they have little or no case. Often times, they win anyway. Even when they don't, they make the life of their target a living hell for months or years, costing people a lot of money, time and agony, and in many cases their jobs and marriages. Prosecutors RARELY drop charges. They do not like to be wrong. When they bring charges they are often very aggressive about prosecuting even in the face of undeniable evidence their victim is not guilty, or even with a complete lack of evidence. Prosecutors and police have been caught many times out right FABRICATING evidence against people.

Again, we go back to the case I mentioned earlier, we have a 15 year old girl who took some pics of her booty with her camera phone and emailed them to some 15 year old boys. It is not apparent that anybody complained (Every 15 year old boy I've ever known would have loved it), but obviously somebody found out (boys probably showed their friends and a teacher overheard something) and called the police. Now the local prosecutor says the girl is a child sex predator for producing "child porn" (of herself!) and the boys are child sex predators for having received "child porn" on their phones. If she'd have lined the boys up and let them all go down on her instead of taking pictures, it'd be OK. How do you figure that?

Look at how many death row inmates have been exonerated recently due to modern forensics (mainly DNA evidence). These are people who have been in jail for 20, 30 plus years, they were convicted and have been waiting to die at the hands of the state and now we have proof they were innocent the entire time.

Look at how many people have been charged with murder for shooting a criminal who broke into their home in the middle of the night.

Police and prosecutors DO NOT serve you. They DO NOT have your best interests in mind. They are employees of the STATE, plain and simple. Their job is to arrest and prosecute and they have every motivation to stretch the laws to suit their case. While the public will tend to interpret laws liberally and biased toward freedom, state officials paid to enforce those laws will tend to interpret them very strictly and biased against freedom. Case in point, courts have ruled that a holster pistol does not "warrant alarm for the safety of others", yet police continue to insist that open carriers are in violation of that very law.

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What I mean is that if they charge you and they don't have a case well then they don't have a case...

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No, you are jaded about how the justice system works. Prosecutors charge people all the time when they have little or no case. Often times, they win anyway. Even when they don't, they make the life of their target a living hell for months or years, costing people a lot of money, time and agony, and in many cases their jobs and marriages. Prosecutors RARELY drop charges. They do not like to be wrong. When they bring charges they are often very aggressive about prosecuting even in the face of undeniable evidence their victim is not guilty, or even with a complete lack of evidence. Prosecutors and police have been caught many times out right FABRICATING evidence against people.

Again, we go back to the case I mentioned earlier, we have a 15 year old girl who took some pics of her booty with her camera phone and emailed them to some 15 year old boys. It is not apparent that anybody complained (Every 15 year old boy I've ever known would have loved it), but obviously somebody found out (boys probably showed their friends and a teacher overheard something) and called the police. Now the local prosecutor says the girl is a child sex predator for producing "child porn" (of herself!) and the boys are child sex predators for having received "child porn" on their phones. If she'd have lined the boys up and let them all go down on her instead of taking pictures, it'd be OK. How do you figure that?

Look at how many death row inmates have been exonerated recently due to modern forensics (mainly DNA evidence). These are people who have been in jail for 20, 30 plus years, they were convicted and have been waiting to die at the hands of the state and now we have proof they were innocent the entire time.

Look at how many people have been charged with murder for shooting a criminal who broke into their home in the middle of the night.

Police and prosecutors DO NOT serve you. They DO NOT have your best interests in mind. They are employees of the STATE, plain and simple. Their job is to arrest and prosecute and they have every motivation to stretch the laws to suit their case. While the public will tend to interpret laws liberally and biased toward freedom, state officials paid to enforce those laws will tend to interpret them very strictly and biased against freedom. Case in point, courts have ruled that a holster pistol does not "warrant alarm for the safety of others", yet police continue to insist that open carriers are in violation of that very law. .

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I would agree to a point.In that I have argued the point with several LEO"S regarding a holstered weapon and a couple just seemed to make the rules as they go along.

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"The beauty about Prosecutors is that they work for the STATE, sooo he would have to find a very good reason why he is charging you... and it would have to be more than impeccable... "

Hopefully, I'm reading you wrong here... you really think that there are any realrepercussions for a District Attorney charging someone with a less than impeccable case? Look at the stats for prosecutions which do not result in conviction. It is almost entirely up to the DA to decide to charge someone or not. There's no real oversight. People are charged with things all the time that they either didn't do or that there is not enough evidence to convict with.

You at least have to be prepared for the possibility that you will bve indicted in any case involing a firearm injury or death, even if you are completely convinced you acted in justified self-defense.

And there are plenty of people who are in jail wrongly. They are a very small minority, but they are there.

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It's OK, Bear. We are all reasonable people here so chances were high we'd eventually agree on something. I'm warning you, though, this won't be the last time.
Hell, keep this up and we just might become friends one day. :what:

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