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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p2smWH8Erw

    yeah. idiot rednecks killing animals for fun is a perfect example of immaturity and consiousless being.

    THEY will be a reason to ban guns. "Oh, well look at these gun owners, killing animals for fun, we should ban guns!" is that they might say.

    why would any person kill an animal for fun? it serves no purpose. if they want to kill, why not go to iraq? or california (hahaha).

    the way i see it is... God said, to use the things he has given us, WISELY. i dont think that killing for fun is a very wise thing to do. nature is nature, so if a coyote kills a racoon, so be it. but dont kill a racoon for no reason. coyote? sure, you get money for it, and if you are smart, youll skin it for another 50-100$ for the pelt. THAT is wise use of the animal.

    im sure ill get crap for postin this, but i dont see a reason in killing something unless its in defense or to eat it.

    going off killing things just for "FUN" will get us into trouble somewhere down the line! (us being every american who wants to keep his rights)

    my 2 cents, had to rant about those rednecks killing hundreds upon hundreds of prariedogs. (and birds, i know thats not legal!)

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    b1ack5mith wrote:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p2smWH8Erw

    yeah. idiot rednecks killing animals for fun is a perfect example of immaturity and consiousless being.

    THEY will be a reason to ban guns. "Oh, well look at these gun owners, killing animals for fun, we should ban guns!" is that they might say.

    why would any person kill an animal for fun? it serves no purpose. if they want to kill, why not go to iraq? or california (hahaha).

    the way i see it is... God said, to use the things he has given us, WISELY. i dont think that killing for fun is a very wise thing to do. nature is nature, so if a coyote kills a racoon, so be it. but dont kill a racoon for no reason. coyote? sure, you get money for it, and if you are smart, youll skin it for another 50-100$ for the pelt. THAT is wise use of the animal.

    im sure ill get crap for postin this, but i dont see a reason in killing something unless its in defense or to eat it.

    going off killing things just for "FUN" will get us into trouble somewhere down the line! (us being every american who wants to keep his rights)

    my 2 cents, had to rant about those rednecks killing hundreds upon hundreds of prariedogs. (and birds, i know thats not legal!)
    I can't watch the video since I don't have an account, but prairie dogs are considered pests by many farmers I believe. If that is the case, would you get mad at exterminators who kill rats in the same way?
    I haven't seen the video, so if what really upsets you was the attitude of the people being taped, I guess maybe that would be a different story.

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    i agree to kill PESTS, however these guys are just randomly killing every moving thing they see... doves, crows, etc.

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    mkl wrote:
    I can't watch the video since I don't have an account, but prairie dogs are considered pests by many farmers I believe. If that is the case, would you get mad at exterminators who kill rats in the same way?
    I haven't seen the video, so if what really upsets you was the attitude of the people being taped, I guess maybe that would be a different story.
    I watched part of the video. I think it's the attitude of the people being taped. I think it's obvious that they are just extermination pests, but I wouldn't behave that way if it were rats I was killing.

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    b1ack5mith wrote:
    ....why would any person kill an animal for fun? it serves no purpose. if they want to kill, why not go to iraq? or california (hahaha)....
    Lol @ California comment. <----Just a 'funny' nothing personal...i was born in CA.

    Seriously:
    This is a tough one. While I agree that varmints and rodents should not be shown the best intentions, i don't agree with mass killings/slaughters with the intent to further the dark feelings someone might have within. I have to agree with the findings of many; that those who abuse small animals (cats, dogs, Gerbils, etc.) have or are likely to have a tendency to poorly value human life as they progress in thier own lives.

    So, they should tone down the hootin' and hollerin' when they make their kill. I dunno, i have killed varmints with my rifles and handguns, but I doubt i have ever celebrated vocally after my 'kill'. Call me weird, but i do have respect for this animal that came to the demise of a piece of metal that was traveling 1150 fps...that he had no idea was coming.

    my .02

    ya, don't relish it, respect it.

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    Actually, f**k you for the California comment. Take it out on states that deserve it. California actually has an active subforum here and OC movement, unlike some states you probably never think to make insulting comments about.

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    marshaul wrote:
    Actually, f**k you for the California comment. Take it out on states that deserve it. California actually has an active subforum here and OC movement, unlike some states you probably never think to make insulting comments about.
    Chill out dude

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    b1ack5mith wrote:
    i agree to kill PESTS, however these guys are just randomly killing every moving thing they see... doves, crows, etc.
    i do it all the time

    shooting little birds is my favorite pastime.

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    I watched part of it and the thing that I noticed, besides the celebrating, is that they were shooting into rocks and other places that could cause a round to ricochet back at them. I wouldn't want to be with them when that happened
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    Yeh, those guys were being a bit too excitable.

    When I get the chance, I go out plinking prariedogs. Farmers around here with horses & cattle will often let people onto their property for that purpose, as the prariedog burrows are a serious hazard to livestock. That, and they can carry plague, Hanta virus, and a variety of other nasties. Oh, and they're aggravating as hell when trying to take pronghorn.....

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    jaredbelch wrote:
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    Actually, f**k you for the California comment. Take it out on states that deserve it. California actually has an active subforum here and OC movement, unlike some states you probably never think to make insulting comments about.
    Chill out dude
    I think you'd be surprised how chill I am.

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    Much of my shooting training was during a loong winter I spent at NRTS/INEL in Idaho.

    Generations of the land being used of this purpose or that have resulted in unrestrained multiplication of the jackrabbits. I started with a bolt action .22, graduated to a H&R shotgun and left Idaho with a Remington 700 .17 caliber under a huge scope.

    A nice day was to drive to the desert with a lunch, a thermos of coffee, a blanket and a sandbag - and the .17 Remington. Then walk to an out of the way hilltop

    and murder jackrabbits.

    My supervisor, that interested me in shooting, had a varmit kill with his .17 at over a thousand paces with witnesses.



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    The reaction you are describing is not necessarily the rule but sadly not the rare exception either. Unfortunately I don't think you can possibly point to these as being the only ones with this attitude toward animals or in some cases humans.

    As for the comment about Californians it is quite strange that in a thread talking about how wrong it is to kill animals someone would even suggest jokingly that it is OK to kill Californians. After all most of them are people too.

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    jopencarry wrote:
    b1ack5mith wrote:
    i agree to kill PESTS, however these guys are just randomly killing every moving thing they see... doves, crows, etc.
    i do it all the time

    shooting little birds is my favorite pastime.

    don't look


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    Shootin' at the birds on the telephone line;
    Pickin' 'em off with this gun o' mine.
    Got a fire in my belly and a fire in my head,
    Goin' higher and higher 'till I'm dead.
    Why small birds may I ask ?? and did you eat the squirrel in the picture ??


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    b1ack5mith wrote:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p2smWH8Erw

    yeah. idiot rednecks killing animals for fun is a perfect example of immaturity and consiousless being.


    I'm pretty sure rednecks will be the death of the second amendment. Nothing like supporting the stereotype to give your opponents ammo and credibility.You want to give anantia heart attack? Show them anintelligent, non-white trash gun owner.

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    If you don't eat it, don't kill it. If it messes with your lively hood i.e. dairy cows, crops, or screws with your family, by all means bump it off. But senseless killing for the hell of it is retarded and does show a lack of respect for what the man upstairs gave to us to take care of. Just the way I see it.

    Those with an agenda to disarm everyone will defiantly use this blatant disregard for common sense as a weapon against us all. It will be used out of context in a hate crime ad, orPower Point presentationat the localpublic ideologyinstitute of further degenerationproving guns are evil, along with their owners. The enemy is shameless and much smarter than those bumpkins on that video. Perception is part of thebattle field and fight to keep our firearms.

    Not sure what California, has to do with this topic. I've seen stupidity all over these United States and gun grabbing going on all over as well. I'm an American first and a Californian by birth, but I choose to live inOregon. I know it isn't saying much, but at least the forests are really green.


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    lukeshort wrote:
    blatant disregard for common sense as a weapon against us all.
    The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.

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    AWDstylez wrote:
    b1ack5mith wrote:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p2smWH8Erw

    yeah. idiot rednecks killing animals for fun is a perfect example of immaturity and consiousless being.


    I'm pretty sure rednecks will be the death of the second amendment. Nothing like supporting the stereotype to give your opponents ammo and credibility.You want to give anantia heart attack? Show them anintelligent, non-white trash gun owner.
    I'm pretty sure socialists and idiots like those in this video will be the death of all our rights, 2nd amend., first. Moronic behavior does not discriminate among rednecks only. I'm sorry you seem to feel that way. Some of the white trash I've seen lately seem to be up on capitol hill, and various other prominent locations.

    Darn't if'n i dawn't gets to gettin up thar much, but i do watch this har cable television picture box, an gets some of that thar news ebejecation learnin.



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    Doug Huffman wrote:
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    blatant disregard for common sense as a weapon against us all.
    The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.

    Call me ignorant, but please explain. It sounds profound, but I want to make sure I get the intent.

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    Used to go out shootin' rats at the local dump all the time as a teenager. Helps cultivate a cool head ad a keen eye and a good aim. But I say that any fool can take and zap a gopher with a scoped AR15 on a bipod.

    OOPS turns out the mayor owns the ranch. Well so much for that cute librarian, gotta skip town.....:celebrate

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    lukeshort wrote:
    Doug Huffman wrote:
    lukeshort wrote:
    blatant disregard for common sense as a weapon against us all.
    The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.

    Call me ignorant, but please explain. It sounds profound, but I want to make sure I get the intent.


    He doesn't actually understand it, nor does it actually make sense. He just likes catch phrases. The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as "common knowledge" (widely held beliefs that are often wrong). Common sense is something completely different that few around here appear to possess.



    lukeshort wrote:
    I'm pretty sure socialists and idiots like those in this video will be the death of all our rights, 2nd amend., first. Moronic behavior does not discriminate among rednecks only. I'm sorry you seem to feel that way. Some of the white trash I've seen lately seem to be up on capitol hill, and various other prominent locations.

    Darn't if'n i dawn't gets to gettin up thar much, but i do watch this har cable television picture box, an gets some of that thar news ebejecation learnin.
    The existence and prominence of idiot rednecks in the gun owner community gives anti's fuel for their backward, ignorant, hillbilly gun owner stereotype. That's all I was referring to.

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    If you don't eat it, don't kill it. If it messes with your lively hood i.e. dairy cows, crops, or screws with your family, by all means bump it off. But senseless killing for the hell of it is retarded and does show a lack of respect for what the man upstairs gave to us to take care of. Just the way I see it. ...
    Just because that's the way "you see it", doesn't mean it's "common sense". There are some species that are considered pests.

    Around here, there is a list of animals that may be taken year round. Food source is not the only valid reason for hunting. That's an idea that anti's cooked up (much like the one about using a gun in SD only if the other person is using like force, or people opposing Texans' right to protect personal property), and one that many self righteous people have taken on to make themselves feel like they are more ethical.

    Example.

    Ground Squirrels and Red Squirrels can be taken year round, yet I wouldn't eat them just because they are more work (to clean) than they are worth. The idea that we should hunt/kill animals only if we are going to eat the meat is pure poppycock that was put out by anti-hunters. There's a much bigger picture. It's more than just "food source, and pest control", it's also about game management (read population control).

    I personally think the guys in the vid came off as a couple of hooligans. I can understand getting excited over a difficult shot, but the apparant glee over the killing of an animal for just the sake of killing does come off as a bit bloodthirsty. Combine that with the foul language (always looks and sounds bad), and it's just an all around bad image. I'm against thrill killing as much as anybody, and believe hunters should be respectful. However, saying "if you don't eat it, don't kill it" goes way beyond that. Nowadays, hunting is much more about management, than it is about food source.

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    ghostrider wrote:
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    If you don't eat it, don't kill it. If it messes with your lively hood i.e. dairy cows, crops, or screws with your family, by all means bump it off. But senseless killing for the hell of it is retarded and does show a lack of respect for what the man upstairs gave to us to take care of. Just the way I see it. ...
    Just because that's the way "you see it", doesn't mean it's "common sense". There are some species that are considered pests.

    Around here, there is a list of animals that may be taken year round. Food source is not the only valid reason for hunting. That's an idea that anti's cooked up (much like the one about using a gun in SD only if the other person is using like force, or people opposing Texans' right to protect personal property), and one that many self righteous people have taken on to make themselves feel like they are more ethical.

    Example.

    Ground Squirrels and Red Squirrels can be taken year round, yet I wouldn't eat them just because they are more work (to clean) than they are worth. The idea that we should hunt/kill animals only if we are going to eat the meat is pure poppycock that was put out by anti-hunters. There's a much bigger picture. It's more than just "food source, and pest control", it's also about game management (read population control).

    I personally think the guys in the vid came off as a couple of hooligans. I can understand getting excited over a difficult shot, but the apparant glee over the killing of an animal for just the sake of killing does come off as a bit bloodthirsty. Combine that with the foul language (always looks and sounds bad), and it's just an all around bad image. I'm against thrill killing as much as anybody, and believe hunters should be respectful. However, saying "if you don't eat it, don't kill it" goes way beyond that. Nowadays, hunting is much more about management, than it is about food source.

    If you read a little further you can see I allowed room for killingpests in my reply. Andyes, you are right. Just because I see it that way, does not make it common sense. There are allot of people that don't see things my way, but they are usually to far gone for any corrective action that can be taken. There are just certain things I don't agree with.

    I'm not sure as to the comment about not shooting it, if your not going to eat it, being put out by anti-hunters. It only seems to make since not to waste possible food. I was raised to believe you try andnever waste a shot, never waste food and never hunt to close to home. I will take my sense of common, over a total disregard for a commodity any day. And this videois the sort of stuff liberal idiots will use to put every gun owner into the same category. It is a misconception, but they don't care as long is ithelps get their agenda pushed forward. I'm against putting any hee haw s@!# on the web for viewing, but thats how Isee it.

    And really, I can only think of one species I would consider a pest, but I'd never eat one.


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    PT111 wrote:
    ....someone would even suggest jokingly that it is OK to kill Californians....
    Well, i see this 'California' comment got way outta control. i, personally, have spent A LOT of time in Ca. Honestly, I couldn't go to certain stores by myself,back in the day, due to the crime rate in some of the inner cities i grew up around. I remember this from my youth, and thats why it gave me a chuckle. not that i support mass-extermination of humans in CA or any other state, obviously.

    i see now: I should have given this explanation immediately after my initial 'lol'. Wow.


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    lukeshort wrote:
    Doug Huffman wrote:
    lukeshort wrote:
    blatant disregard for common sense as a weapon against us all.
    The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.
    Call me ignorant, but please explain. It sounds profound, but I want to make sure I get the intent.
    Common sense is in short supply in today's world, perhaps even non-existent. In its place the conspirators would have you believe that because they agree their sense is common.

    Believe nothing that you read or hear without verifying it yourself unless it fits your pre-existing worldview.



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