tai4de2
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I was just looking over the Kirkland code and there are some provisions that don't appear to be consistent with state preemption.
For example in this one, there is no exemption for CCW holders:
(S)11.41.055 Dangerous weapons.
(a) Every person who has in his possession any instrument, martial arts weapon or other weapon of the kind usually known as blackjack, slingshot, nunchaku, throwing star, sand club or metal knuckles or spring blade knife or any knife the blade of which is automatically released by a spring mechanism or other mechanical device, or any knife having a blade which opens or falls or is ejected into position by the force of gravity, or by an outward, downward or centrifugal thrust or movement; who shall furtively carry with intent to conceal any dagger, dirk, pistol or other dangerous weapon; or who uses any contrivance or device for suppressing the noise of any firearm, is guilty of a serious crime.
This one seems to contradict state law which specifically says that only the age-restricted portion of an establishment is off-limits for carrying; and also with state law about possession at schools, which specifically allows CCW holders to have guns in a vehicle when picking up or dropping off students, or to keep gun locked in a car when conducting business at the school:
11.41.060 Weapons banned in certain places.
Notwithstanding Section 11.41.020, it is unlawful for any person to possess a firearm in any place where intoxicating liquor is sold for consumption on the premises, in public parks, on public or private school grounds, in the Kirkland City Hall, or in the Kirkland Police Department, except the public entrance area thereto; provided that RCW 9.41.270 (3) is adopted as exception to this section. (Ord. 2768 § 2 (part), 1983)
There may be others.
Are these things anything to worry about? The way I read this, the right to CC in Kirkland is denied.
I was just looking over the Kirkland code and there are some provisions that don't appear to be consistent with state preemption.
For example in this one, there is no exemption for CCW holders:
(S)11.41.055 Dangerous weapons.
(a) Every person who has in his possession any instrument, martial arts weapon or other weapon of the kind usually known as blackjack, slingshot, nunchaku, throwing star, sand club or metal knuckles or spring blade knife or any knife the blade of which is automatically released by a spring mechanism or other mechanical device, or any knife having a blade which opens or falls or is ejected into position by the force of gravity, or by an outward, downward or centrifugal thrust or movement; who shall furtively carry with intent to conceal any dagger, dirk, pistol or other dangerous weapon; or who uses any contrivance or device for suppressing the noise of any firearm, is guilty of a serious crime.
This one seems to contradict state law which specifically says that only the age-restricted portion of an establishment is off-limits for carrying; and also with state law about possession at schools, which specifically allows CCW holders to have guns in a vehicle when picking up or dropping off students, or to keep gun locked in a car when conducting business at the school:
11.41.060 Weapons banned in certain places.
Notwithstanding Section 11.41.020, it is unlawful for any person to possess a firearm in any place where intoxicating liquor is sold for consumption on the premises, in public parks, on public or private school grounds, in the Kirkland City Hall, or in the Kirkland Police Department, except the public entrance area thereto; provided that RCW 9.41.270 (3) is adopted as exception to this section. (Ord. 2768 § 2 (part), 1983)
There may be others.
Are these things anything to worry about? The way I read this, the right to CC in Kirkland is denied.