RU98A
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Did anyone check for a swastika on the SS troops guarding Obama?Armed wrote:I thought the SS was doing Obama's security being the socialist he is :^).I got an automated reply with a FAQ list stating the SS was in charge of security
Just joking for pete's sake!
Let's be fair to the Secret Service. They were NOT part of the problem in PA! It was the local and state police that were the problem.Did anyone check for a swastika on the SS troops guarding Obama?
That's right. Here's a link to who is responsible: http://www.pafoa.org/forum/conceale...sted-oc-near-obama-rally-site.html#post408562RU98A wrote:Let's be fair to the Secret Service. They were NOT part of the problem in PA! It was the local and state police that were the problem.Did anyone check for a swastika on the SS troops guarding Obama?
I did that once with my Nikon. It was new to me and I didn't reallize what the "BW" on the screen meant. I'm not sure why they even have that feature since you can always convert the photo later, perhaps to save storage space? Although the photos came out nice it kinda upset me because I think they would have been much better in color.Neplusultra wrote:That was my $800 SLR camera that I accidently put on black and white. But it turned out pretty cool so oh well. At least I didn't take all of my pictures like that.Hey, I hear they're making color digital cameras now for less than $100! :^).
That is so bizzare, I can't believe they let you get that close. Perhaps the candidates set that up as a policy? I can't imagine that happening with Biden.
Do the other pictures show the stands or maybe Sarah?snip.....
4. Turns out, Chris (richarcm) actually has three pictures of me open carrying at the event (earlier I said he took two)
I'll answer all three questions I've noticed so far:
1. The shirt is sold on Ebay in all sizes for $15.00 as a Buy It Now items or the bidding starts at $9.99. Just search for Sic Semper Tyrannis. You can make a best offer (I bought three of them) and the seller acceptedmy $12.oooffer each time.
You didn't have to go through the metal detectors? The one I attended in Fairfax was herded through 10 of them on the only entrance. I didn't think I'd get through OC or CC when the bus-in point was instructed no food/drinks/purses/signs, etc. Seems like it's relaxed since then.
Good for you. I'm jealous, but then again I wouldn't have really wanted to stand in the same 2 ft sq for three hours like I did and be concerned about a grab in the crowd.
Cheers to you! :celebrate
My bad. I didn't read close enough. Bad boy, Bad boy. My apologies to the SS.jpierce wrote:That's right. Here's a link to who is responsible: http://www.pafoa.org/forum/concealed-open-carry-121/31196-mtn-jack-arrested-oc-near-obama-rally-site.html#post408562RU98A wrote:Let's be fair to the Secret Service. They were NOT part of the problem in PA! It was the local and state police that were the problem.Did anyone check for a swastika on the SS troops guarding Obama?
The USSS cleared him; that is, they are not involved in any charges.
Only because this is making me a little nervous.....to be fair we open carried our holsters to the event. We did not arm up until we go to to my truck in the parking lot. There were not any security measures taken place upon arrival of the event however I am not 100% confident that had we spent the event actually OCing that a cop wouldn't have come to us and asked us to leave or disarm.
I'm am not confident enough in the allowance of OCing at rallys such as this as to persuade others to do it. I would recommend approaching this issue no differently than you ever have until there is more obvious evidence that OCing would not be a problem.
richarcm wrote:Only because this is making me a little nervous.....to be fair we open carried our holsters to the event. We did not arm up until we go to to my truck in the parking lot. There were not any security measures taken place upon arrival of the event however I am not 100% confident that had we spent the event actually OCing that a cop wouldn't have come to us and asked us to leave or disarm.
I'm am not confident enough in the allowance of OCing at rallys such as this as to persuade others to do it. I would recommend approaching this issue no differently than you ever have until there is more obvious evidence that OCing would not be a problem.
OK guys - 'fess up. Did you OC or even CC at the event itself or only in the parking lot? Or was it an "empty holster" thing.
The OP says you did carry but the above states otherwise.
If you truly participated with empty holsters, you accomplished something - but what am I to believe now?
I can understand all of the reasons for taking the "empty holster" route but find none acceptable to me for an apparent deception of the readership.
Please tell me I am wrong because faith and trust in the word of a brother have been lost.
Yata hey
OP snip....Grapeshot wrote:richarcm wrote:Only because this is making me a little nervous.....to be fair we open carried our holsters to the event. We did not arm up until we go to to my truck in the parking lot. There were not any security measures taken place upon arrival of the event however I am not 100% confident that had we spent the event actually OCing that a cop wouldn't have come to us and asked us to leave or disarm.
I'm am not confident enough in the allowance of OCing at rallys such as this as to persuade others to do it. I would recommend approaching this issue no differently than you ever have until there is more obvious evidence that OCing would not be a problem.
OK guys - 'fess up. Did you OC or even CC at the event itself or only in the parking lot? Or was it an "empty holster" thing.
The OP says you did carry but the above states otherwise.
If you truly participated with empty holsters, you accomplished something - but what am I to believe now?
I can understand all of the reasons for taking the "empty holster" route but find none acceptable to me for an apparent deception of the readership.
Please tell me I am wrong because faith and trust in the word of a brother have been lost.
Yata hey
In the name of not causing problems in the future for someone else....we empty holstered to the event. Nobody made any mention to our holsters.Sic Semper Tyrannisarmed when we got back to the truck. He stood around my truck for about 20 minutes, people saw him as EVERYBODY was leaving and then we got in my truck and turned the AC on.
To be fair to Sic Semper Tyrannis, because I'm not trying to call him out, there were not any security measures at all to get to where we were in the crowd. We could have very easily OC'd to the event because there were not any 'no gun' signs and nobody as much as eyeballed us down upon entering. We could have CC'd to where we were without any problems whatsoever. We probably COULD have OC'd however I am not willing say what the outcome would have been had we actually did it.
richarcm wrote:OP snip....Grapeshot wrote:richarcm wrote:Only because this is making me a little nervous.....to be fair we open carried our holsters to the event. We did not arm up until we go to to my truck in the parking lot. There were not any security measures taken place upon arrival of the event however I am not 100% confident that had we spent the event actually OCing that a cop wouldn't have come to us and asked us to leave or disarm.
I'm am not confident enough in the allowance of OCing at rallys such as this as to persuade others to do it. I would recommend approaching this issue no differently than you ever have until there is more obvious evidence that OCing would not be a problem.
OK guys - 'fess up. Did you OC or even CC at the event itself or only in the parking lot? Or was it an "empty holster" thing.
The OP says you did carry but the above states otherwise.
If you truly participated with empty holsters, you accomplished something - but what am I to believe now?
I can understand all of the reasons for taking the "empty holster" route but find none acceptable to me for an apparent deception of the readership.
Please tell me I am wrong because faith and trust in the word of a brother have been lost.
Yata hey
In the name of not causing problems in the future for someone else....we empty holstered to the event. Nobody made any mention to our holsters.Sic Semper Tyrannisarmed when we got back to the truck. He stood around my truck for about 20 minutes, people saw him as EVERYBODY was leaving and then we got in my truck and turned the AC on.
To be fair to Sic Semper Tyrannis, because I'm not trying to call him out, there were not any security measures at all to get to where we were in the crowd. We could have very easily OC'd to the event because there were not any 'no gun' signs and nobody as much as eyeballed us down upon entering. We could have CC'd to where we were without any problems whatsoever. We probably COULD have OC'd however I am not willing say what the outcome would have been had we actually did it.
"I later open carried at the rally. No big deal,at least several dozen cops and thousands of people.... including several whodirectly saw me...and we were right at the very front of the crowd at the metal barriers...."
I'm just sorry that someone felt the need to fabricate facts not in evidence. It tarnishes what otherwise could have been a sterling report and puts other things in question. 'Nuff said.
Yata hey
Now in regards to the Palin rally I think he just got a little excited about the fact that there weren't any security measures, nobody said anything about our holsters and nobody said anything once he armed up. I think he was just a little unclear as to when we open holstered and when we armed up.
The point of the story, which I think was his main intention, was that there were ZERO measures there to keep you from CCing....unless going stageside. That being said there were also ZERO measures to keep you from OCing. I'm just a little more skeptical than he is as to whether or not a cop would have confronted us had we OC'd and had he/she seen us. He assumes that we could have OC'd the entire event without much problem. Very possible. I just don't know for sure.
SicSemperTyrannis wrote:You only had to go through the metal detector to sit right around her. If you were going to stand only30 yards away, you could open carry a loaded firearm. Chris (richarcm) and I both did. No bid deal, hundreds of cops and thousands of people.... and we were right at the very front of the crowd at the metal barriers....
There is nothing there that refutes your original claim you were OC-ing within 30 yards of Ms. Palin.I would sign an affidavit. We did not see a single secret service officer anywhere... obviously they were there, but likely much closer to where she was speaking, whereas we were outside the zone that required you to go through a metal detector.
I have two photos (taken by Chris) of meat the rallyopen carrying a Sig .40 229. The pics were taken near the parking area,at least100 yards from where she was. I wanted him to take a picture at the fairgrounds just to prove that I really open carried there.
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Up until now it was nice knowing you.Only because this is making me a little nervous.....to be fair we open carried our holsters to the event. We did not arm up until we go to to my truck in the parking lot. There were not any security measures taken place upon arrival of the event however I am not 100% confident that had we spent the event actually OCing that a cop wouldn't have come to us and asked us to leave or disarm.
:X,:?,& :question:I would sign an affidavit.