(I had to admit this cause she saw this thread) Mine are on the keychain in her purse.
DEROS72 wrote:
:dude:That's what Bear looks like, except his "Boys" are in a lockbox in the kitchen.
BTW, Excellent news on the Grandbaby!!!I'm 58 and don't have any yet
Last I read the number it was in the high 90% range. Think about it: Our soldiers are our brothers, our sisters, our uncles, nephews, friends, children, and on and on. I doubt more than a tiny % of them will engage their own people. On a small scale, absolutely and that's been proven with Waco, etc. If they think they're defending government and citizens from a small group of crazies, most will go for it - and that's how our civil war will start. However, once it's clear to the troops they are no longer dealing with a small subset of nuts and we begin to enter an all out civil war, I highly suspect most will go AWOL - and take their military issue equipment with them. I'll bet "We, The People" wind up with a majority of high ranking officials and several air and naval bases on our side, along with the warplanes and other equipment that entails.
I will give my life defending my freedoms. I'd rather be dead than live under a socialist regime. I mean that with every ounce of my being. When the sh!t hits the fan, I will not sit idly by.
I think you are living in a fantasy world if you think the Demos give a rats azz what the SCOTUS said. hell DC still hasn't complied with their decision.
I think you are basing conclusions upon no evidence. For starters, DC does not equate to "the dems." DC does what it wants, and will continue to do so until some court gives them a hearty smack. Democrat has nothing to do with it.marshaul wrote:I think you are living in a fantasy world if you think the Demos give a rats azz what the SCOTUS said. hell DC still hasn't complied with their decision.
Bear 45/70 wrote:
I think you are basing conclusions upon no evidence. For starters, DC does not equate to "the dems." DC does what it wants, and will continue to do so until some court gives them a hearty smack. Democrat has nothing to do with it.marshaul wrote:I think you are living in a fantasy world if you think the Demos give a rats azz what the SCOTUS said. hell DC still hasn't complied with their decision.
Secondly, I don't think the "dems" respect the Supreme Court decision. I don't think that decision had much effect at all: it didn't convince anyone to adopt the individual interpretation who didn't already subscribe to it (aside from the SCOTUS itself, of course).
However, I also don't think Barack Obama is going to go on a quest to grab our guns. Fortunately, our government pays just enough attention to us that something as massively unpopular and unsuccessful as gun control is very unlikely to attract Presidential focus. The President works to manipulate people into approval, not uniting them against him on an unpopular issue.
The good news isn't Heller (which was a sign of the times, not a causal factor in and of itself), but that gun control has failed. Barack Obama isn't going to be able to do much more than stand by and watch as the American people and our "representatives" dismantle what gun control remains in the years to come.
The simple fact is Barack Obama isn't the congress or the SCOTUS; he alone can't ban guns. He'll never get enough support for a gun ban in our current political climate. Even the dems don't want a gun ban, they want lower taxes and more jobs. Or don't you watch the debates?
You have a point, but that brings us back to my first post. Do you really think B.O. (god I love calling him that lol) will give us our revolution?marshaul wrote:Bear 45/70 wrote:
I think you are basing conclusions upon no evidence. For starters, DC does not equate to "the dems." DC does what it wants, and will continue to do so until some court gives them a hearty smack. Democrat has nothing to do with it.marshaul wrote:I think you are living in a fantasy world if you think the Demos give a rats azz what the SCOTUS said. hell DC still hasn't complied with their decision.
Secondly, I don't think the "dems" respect the Supreme Court decision. I don't think that decision had much effect at all: it didn't convince anyone to adopt the individual interpretation who didn't already subscribe to it (aside from the SCOTUS itself, of course).
However, I also don't think Barack Obama is going to go on a quest to grab our guns. Fortunately, our government pays just enough attention to us that something as massively unpopular and unsuccessful as gun control is very unlikely to attract Presidential focus. The President works to manipulate people into approval, not uniting them against him on an unpopular issue.
The good news isn't Heller (which was a sign of the times, not a causal factor in and of itself), but that gun control has failed. Barack Obama isn't going to be able to do much more than stand by and watch as the American people and our "representatives" dismantle what gun control remains in the years to come.
The simple fact is Barack Obama isn't the congress or the SCOTUS; he alone can't ban guns. He'll never get enough support for a gun ban in our current political climate. Even the dems don't want a gun ban, they want lower taxes and more jobs. Or don't you watch the debates?
Gee didn't Klinton use Executive Orders (illegally) to do exactly what you are saying B.O. can't do?
FYI, gun control failed 50 years ago, but that hasn't stop the idiots from insisting that because it hasn't worked yet, we need more of it to make it work.
B.O. has already said that if push comes to shove, he will side with the Muslims and from where I stand that is not the position for the C in C to ever have, or a claimed to be Christian either.Bear 45/70 wrote:
You have a point, but that brings us back to my first post. Do you really think B.O. (god I love calling him that lol) will give us our revolution?marshaul wrote:Bear 45/70 wrote:
I think you are basing conclusions upon no evidence. For starters, DC does not equate to "the dems." DC does what it wants, and will continue to do so until some court gives them a hearty smack. Democrat has nothing to do with it.marshaul wrote:I think you are living in a fantasy world if you think the Demos give a rats azz what the SCOTUS said. hell DC still hasn't complied with their decision.
Secondly, I don't think the "dems" respect the Supreme Court decision. I don't think that decision had much effect at all: it didn't convince anyone to adopt the individual interpretation who didn't already subscribe to it (aside from the SCOTUS itself, of course).
However, I also don't think Barack Obama is going to go on a quest to grab our guns. Fortunately, our government pays just enough attention to us that something as massively unpopular and unsuccessful as gun control is very unlikely to attract Presidential focus. The President works to manipulate people into approval, not uniting them against him on an unpopular issue.
The good news isn't Heller (which was a sign of the times, not a causal factor in and of itself), but that gun control has failed. Barack Obama isn't going to be able to do much more than stand by and watch as the American people and our "representatives" dismantle what gun control remains in the years to come.
The simple fact is Barack Obama isn't the congress or the SCOTUS; he alone can't ban guns. He'll never get enough support for a gun ban in our current political climate. Even the dems don't want a gun ban, they want lower taxes and more jobs. Or don't you watch the debates?
Gee didn't Klinton use Executive Orders (illegally) to do exactly what you are saying B.O. can't do?
FYI, gun control failed 50 years ago, but that hasn't stop the idiots from insisting that because it hasn't worked yet, we need more of it to make it work.
I will flat out guarantee you B.O. will help it not stop it.
