Bear 45/70 wrote:
OK, in order so you can't complain.
Convoluted may ass. You flat out said that not letting cops lie makes doing their job harder. That would be advocating that it is OK for cops to lie.
Cops, just like any other person will do worse bad things if allowed to cheat a little. It's call human nature.
Your idea of anarchy is so totally flawed it is unbelievable. You need to do a whole lot of reading before you can even start to comprehend the concept. For me to explain it to you would require a reading list that I am unwilling to supply you, mainly because you wouldn't read it anyway. You already made up your mind, regardless of the facts.
As to easy, you seem to thing that the cops having to be honest and not lie creates a hardship on cops, there by making the job harder. MY response to that concept is "Too f'king Bad!" The copneed to live within the same rules that everyone else does or they aren't cops, but just thugs with a badge. Not my idea of law and order. Oh and if you think what we have now is law and order, then you are as confused about what law and order is, as you are about what anarchy is.
You really are a simplistic person aren't you? What I said was letting cops lie
as legally allowed in the form of a ruse is ok. If something is allowed by the rules, it is NOT "cheating".
So pray tell what is YOUR idea of anarchy? Mine pretty much follows the main dictionary definitions :
1. a state of society without government or law. 2. political and social disorder due to the absence of governmental control: The death of the king was followed by a year of anarchy. 3. a theory that regards the absence of all direct or coercive government as a political ideal and that proposes the cooperative and voluntary association of individuals and groups as the principal mode of organized society. 4. confusion; chaos; disorder: Intellectual and moral anarchy followed his loss of faith.
I am betting your idea is the Utopian belief suggested in #3 that everyone will just magically get along since that has worked so well all through history...
Go ahead and supply your "reading list". I'll let you know which ones I have already read and which ones are written by nut-jobs. am sorry of you can't wrap your little brain around the concept that the law ALLOWS a ruse. So if the Law ALLOWS it, it isn't illegal. To put it another way if it is in the "rules" it isn't "cheating".
Here let summarize your argument and mine and then we can let the people decide...
YOU:
Blah, blah, blah CHEATING waah, waah, waah ,NOT FAIR whine, whine, whine, COPS SUCK
ME:
Courts have long held police may use a ruse such as presenting false information to solicit information regarding a crime.
Keep those PM coming in folks, up to 18 to 1 now....