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    CZ-75B 9mm, 13round magazine, witha Fobus Paddle Holster, and +P Gold Dot hollow-points.

    I open carried today for the first time ever. I went to Arby's first to snag a quick dinner 100% problem free. Then I went to FoodLion to pick up a loaf of bread for lunch tommorow, and thats when I got slightly nervous. Foodlion changed their floorplan, at which point I was lost I asked an employee who looked straight at my gun and dropped his phone and told me aisle three. Then as I walked to the register and paid the woman she looked slightly nervous/jumpy (was staring me dead in the eye as she fumbled with the register.) Then I told her Thank You, to have a good night, and keep warm, and walked out of the store.

    I dont look like a "thug" or anything, but something about the people of the Foodlion made me feel as if I was a criminal in the wrong.

    I have already submitted my NRA membership stuff, I am thinking about joining the VCDL very soon, because of all the horror stories I hear from yall and the weird feeling I had today

    Would anyone mind clarifieng the "Virginia Tuck" for me, maybe the whole pistol out in the open it to blatent for people around here with how places have been being robbed.

    But I will not leave it home with how things are going. ( $3 Car Wash Murder, Applebees robbed, Foodlion robbed, Chinese restraunt robbed, ect) thats in a 1 BLOCK area off of Hull Street, and Genito Road

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    Welcome to OC.

    Well done!

    Dropped their phone!?! My goodness, must be a jumpy bunch.

    Just engage them in pleasant, light conversation. Thingswill improve.

    For example, ask the cashier something off the usual line of business. "Looks busy, tonight. How do you guys stand it?" Just be careful not to ask something that a jumpy, nervous type might misconstrue as a prelude to a robbery.

    To the phone-dropper I might say with a big smile, "You dropped your phone. Careful. I don't want my food prices going up because the staff is hard on the equipment."

    A waitress recently said, "That's scary" when I replied to her question that it was a real gun. She was observeably a little nervous. So I told her with a smile, "I'm real tame. Just ask the other staff."
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

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    A waitress recently said, "That's scary" when I replied to her question that it was a real gun. She was observeably a little nervous. So I told her with a smile, "I'm real tame. Just ask the other staff."
    should of asked her "What model pistol you carry?"

    Of course she would say she doesnt carry, then you could explain to her what her rights are here in Va for OC.

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    Welcome aboard, maybe going out with another person who is a seasoned OC'er might help some of your nervousness.

    Don't feel bad about it, it is your right!

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    I think that everyone gets nervous and its normal. My first time was in Starbucks....I don't think you are allowed to go there if you are pro-gun! My knees were shaking, my back quivered, I could barely pour the sugar or the cream into my coffee without looking like a complete idiot. It was very nerve racking. That is still one of my places of weekness for whatever reason.

    It does get easier. I began by OCing with friends. It takes a lot of pressure off of you individually and spreads it among a group of people. Plus it looks less suspicious I think when a group of people have a gun than when a single person has a gun. If you can, I would suggest OCing with someone else or a group of people who have already been broken in.

    This website has done wonders to giving me the confidence needed to OC with minimal stress. I've read many stories of people carrying and having bad encounters and have learned from them....how to act, what to say, what to do. When I say "many" I don't mean a lot. I just mean that I've read enough of them from all over the STATE over the past several MONTHS to learn the basics.

    I'll be honest I have been provocatively wearing political tshirts in Starbucks and grocery stores and bars for a while. The stares were something I kind of got used to. Just keep at it.....do the Starbucks and the Walmart tours and they will really help break you in. Study this website and the law and they will help provide you with some knowledge and confidence.

    If you find yourself feeling uncomfortable....leave the gun in the car. Baby steps. If you are nervous people WILL pick up on it. After a few times the gun will bring it's own confidence rather than nervousness. People will look at it and go "hmmmm" VS "OMG!".

    Good luck!

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    trx680 wrote:
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    A waitress recently said, "That's scary" when I replied to her question that it was a real gun. She was observeably a little nervous. So I told her with a smile, "I'm real tame. Just ask the other staff."
    should of asked her "What model pistol you carry?"

    Of course she would say she doesnt carry, then you could explain to her what her rights are here in Va for OC.
    Does anyone have names for their guns? I think I should name mine so I can politely introduce them to each other. Maybe that will help break the ice?

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    trx680 wrote:
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    A waitress recently said, "That's scary" when I replied to her question that it was a real gun. She was observeably a little nervous. So I told her with a smile, "I'm real tame. Just ask the other staff."
    should of asked her "What model pistol you carry?"

    Of course she would say she doesnt carry, then you could explain to her what her rights are here in Va for OC.
    I've done a version of that before. "Yes it is. Where's yours?" (looking at their belt)

    With this particular waitress it seemed more important to put her at ease. She wasa littlenervous when she said it was scary. I thought about promoting 2A, but I was pretty sure from her initial reaction that I wouldn't get far trying to talk over top of her nervousness.
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

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    I don't know if this is the Virginia Tuck or not but for over 20 years I have been carrying inside the waist band, without a holster, just behind the weak side hip. It's a bit of a reach for a cross draw but it's very comfortable, very easy to conceal even with my Browning HP and even more so with my Ruger SP101. Only the grip is visible above the belt, just behind my cell phone. Even with my short tucked in, it's not very easy to see bu I can pull my shirt up a little and let it fold over the grip if I want a more concealed carry.

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    richarcm wrote:
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    A waitress recently said, "That's scary" when I replied to her question that it was a real gun. She was observeably a little nervous. So I told her with a smile, "I'm real tame. Just ask the other staff."
    should of asked her "What model pistol you carry?"

    Of course she would say she doesnt carry, then you could explain to her what her rights are here in Va for OC.
    Does anyone have names for their guns? I think I should name mine so I can politely introduce them to each other. Maybe that will help break the ice?
    Or send them screaming for a cop.

    No, just introduce yourself.
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

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    Citizen wrote:
    richarcm wrote:
    trx680 wrote:
    Citizen wrote:
    A waitress recently said, "That's scary" when I replied to her question that it was a real gun. She was observeably a little nervous. So I told her with a smile, "I'm real tame. Just ask the other staff."
    should of asked her "What model pistol you carry?"

    Of course she would say she doesnt carry, then you could explain to her what her rights are here in Va for OC.
    Does anyone have names for their guns? I think I should name mine so I can politely introduce them to each other. Maybe that will help break the ice?
    Or send them screaming for a cop.

    No, just introduce yourself.
    Maybe but I'm still going to come up with a name for mine. Just becuz.....

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    Citizen wrote:
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    A waitress recently said, "That's scary" when I replied to her question that it was a real gun. She was observeably a little nervous. So I told her with a smile, "I'm real tame. Just ask the other staff."
    I've done a version of that before. "Yes it is. Where's yours?" (looking at their belt)

    With this particular waitress it seemed more important to put her at ease. She wasa littlenervous when she said it was scary. I thought about promoting 2A, but I was pretty sure from her initial reaction that I wouldn't get far trying to talk over top of her nervousness.
    I like that Citizen. Yoursensitivity tothe waitress' trepidation seems like a good tool to show that OCers are normal people. I'm putting that in my tool bag.

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    Oh yeah, good work Swann...and welcome.

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    Swann wrote:
    I dont look like a "thug" or anything, but something about the people of the Foodlion made me feel as if I was a criminal in the wrong.
    So you're telling me you don't look like this guy here in the middle?



    Either way, good job. It gets easier with time.
    Why open carry? Because 1911 > 911.

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    AbNo wrote:
    Swann wrote:
    I dont look like a "thug" or anything, but something about the people of the Foodlion made me feel as if I was a criminal in the wrong.
    So you're telling me you don't look like this guy here in the middle?



    Either way, good job. It gets easier with time.
    Is this from Warriors? A fine piece of movie making!

    My first time was a little nerve racking as well.

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    Buster, look at the OP's name, and then you tell me.
    Why open carry? Because 1911 > 911.

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    AbNo wrote:
    Buster, look at the OP's name, and then you tell me.
    Very nice. I didn't catch it. They should re-make that classic.

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    Swann wrote:
    CZ-75B 9mm, 13round magazine, witha Fobus Paddle Holster, and +P Gold Dot hollow-points.

    I open carried today for the first time ever. I went to Arby's first to snag a quick dinner 100% problem free. Then I went to FoodLion to pick up a loaf of bread for lunch tommorow, and thats when I got slightly nervous. Foodlion changed their floorplan, at which point I was lost I asked an employee who looked straight at my gun and dropped his phone and told me aisle three. Then as I walked to the register and paid the woman she looked slightly nervous/jumpy (was staring me dead in the eye as she fumbled with the register.) Then I told her Thank You, to have a good night, and keep warm, and walked out of the store.

    I dont look like a "thug" or anything, but something about the people of the Foodlion made me feel as if I was a criminal in the wrong.
    Think about it. You were declaring yourself "not a sheep". Sheep get nervous around critters with fangs. They cannot tell the difference between a wolf and a sheepdog.

    Remember the saying "It's all relative!"? Since there are no hard definitions in the politically correct mindset (of losers), they have no way of differentiating between good and evil. Their view of the world clashes with their biological hardwiring; it's easy to say "murderers are misunderstood". But, it's another thing entirely to SEE an armed person and BELIEVE they're a murderer...or certainly capable of it. YOUR BEHAVIOR DOES NOT MATTER to them...because they cannot tell the difference. So, they get scared even though your behavior shows NOTHING but good intent.

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    buster81 wrote:
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    Buster, look at the OP's name, and then you tell me.
    Very nice. I didn't catch it. They should re-make that classic.
    No. No they shouldn't. I'll not have that movie's reputation sullied.

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    Woof! :celebrate
    Why open carry? Because 1911 > 911.

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    I recall my first open-carry experiences. They were Arizona, where I was a newcomer to the state and brand new to carrying a gun in general. Having never carried a gun before I did my best to attractno unwanted attention and did my best to ensure that I was aware of applicable laws. It was a bit scary at first not knowing how people would react and never having seen anyone do it, but I soon found that people either didn't notice, or being in Arizona they'd seen it often enough that there was nothing unusual about it. After a while I carried just about everywhere I went (where legal), so when I finally decided to get a concealed carry license I was so used to carrying a large frame gun out in the open for everyone to see I grew accustomed to carrying concealed even quicker. Other than for one Phoenixcop, I never did run into any issues in all of my time carrying in that state. You'll likely soon grow accustomed to your newly grown appendage the more you carry and having it with you will be like second nature.

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    Swann wrote:
    Would anyone mind clarifieng the "Virginia Tuck" for me, maybe the whole pistol out in the open it to blatent for people around here with how places have been being robbed.
    The "Virginia Tuck" refers to times when you are concealed (or indifferently concealing, as some call it, such as with an open shirt over a gun.) Because you must open carry some places (restaurants/clubs that serve alcohol for consumption the premises, primarily), some simply tuck the shirt behind the pistol for the time they're in the establishment.

    It became the "Virginia Tuck" because we're one of a very few states with that ridiculous rule.

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    Wait, I thought the VA Tuck was OC IWB?
    Why open carry? Because 1911 > 911.

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    my first open carry lol

    well i just put my revolver with the handle sticking out of my pocket and i took a walk around town 33% of the gun was out and to be honest i didn't matter if the gun was concealed in pocket since i had a concealed handgun permit anyway : P

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    the best explanation I ever heard !!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by cREbralFIX View Post
    Swann wrote:

    Think about it. You were declaring yourself "not a sheep". Sheep get nervous around critters with fangs. They cannot tell the difference between a wolf and a sheepdog.

    Remember the saying "It's all relative!"? Since there are no hard definitions in the politically correct mindset (of losers), they have no way of differentiating between good and evil. Their view of the world clashes with their biological hardwiring; it's easy to say "murderers are misunderstood". But, it's another thing entirely to SEE an armed person and BELIEVE they're a murderer...or certainly capable of it. YOUR BEHAVIOR DOES NOT MATTER to them...because they cannot tell the difference. So, they get scared even though your behavior shows NOTHING but good intent.

    Welcome to the dog pack
    THAT WAS THE BEST EXPLANATION i EVER HEARD !! IM USING IT !!! THANK YOU !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Operator_223 View Post
    THAT WAS THE BEST EXPLANATION i EVER HEARD !! IM USING IT !!! THANK YOU !!!
    That is very good, oh BTW, this thread is old.

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    Think about it. You were declaring yourself "not a sheep". Sheep get nervous around critters with fangs. They cannot tell the difference between a wolf and a sheepdog.
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    How come a DUI you can get your driver licence back, which it is a privilege. But if commiting a felon, even something non violent like stealing, you are denied your constitutional rights for the rest of your life?
    If you don't support the Second Amendment to the Constitution, what other parts of the Constitution do you reject?
    More restrictions on guns? how about restrictions on chainsaws and knives?

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    Quote Originally Posted by opencarrypalmtrees View Post
    well i just put my revolver with the handle sticking out of my pocket and i took a walk around town 33% of the gun was out and to be honest i didn't matter if the gun was concealed in pocket since i had a concealed handgun permit anyway : P
    Couple of corrections if I may. It's a grip, not a handle. And you would be well advised and served to use a quality holster for your revolver for reasons beyond the obvious. We do want you to safely enjoy your rights and along with that, present a good and positive image to the public at large when openly carrying a firearm since every one of us is affected by what each of us does when out and about openly armed.

    Carry safely and welcome aboard.
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