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    So no $h!t there I was... freshly shaved head, wearing dickies and Doc Martins carrying my Taurus Millenium Pro, with my ethnic friend, who was legaly carrying his Ruger LCP concealed, buying an AR10 before the immenent increase in price due to election outcome. Almost as soon as I entered Bob's Guns, a young African American male asks me if I have a permit, to which I replied, "Why no." To which he replied, "Are you a cop?" Again, "Why no." So I proceeded to educate himpolitely on Open Carry in the commonwealth of Virginia. It was great! He asked all the right questions and I had all the answers, thanks to this site and your collective experiences. That is with one exception. After asking what happens if he shoots someone... he continues with, and I $h!t you negative... "So they can trace me to the bulletS?". After moments of bewildered silence, I gathered my composure and explained that if he "had to shoot someone" it would likely be in self defense and he should be there when the police arrive, not needing to be traced by "bullets" or any other means.

    All in all my experience at Bob's was as expected due to the nature of the buisness. After Bob's we went to A&P Arms on a quest for 25 round AR10 magazines, to no avail. The experience was similar insomuch as nobody had any negative response.

    On to 7/11, where my friend flirted with what might as well have been Rosie Perez, while I stood by observing her demeanor or any other customer reaction, of which there was none.

    Last test of the night... the family resteraunt. A good mixture of young and old, of a variety of race and socioeconomic upbringing. Yes of course I am referring to Golden Corral. Not one word as we entered, paid, and were seated. My friend noticed and made comment of the looks I was getting from the patrons, however nobody made any direct comments to either of us. Just as I thought the night to be uneventful... out of my peripheral vision I see the LEO enter the resteraunt. "Here we go." I say as my heart began to race. I gave my keys to my friend in case things went bad and I was detained. I boldly grabbed a fresh plate and ran the gauntlet of the buffet purposfuly, anddirectly in front of said LEO. I am fairly certain that Iheard the cashier say, "That's him." or something to that effect. The LEO just rolled his eyes and continued his conversation with the employee, not makeing one move toward me or my table. I know he saw me and Sandy...my .45. He did however stay the entirety of my vist to the establishment, not ever making direct eye contact or coversation with myself or my friend.

    For a first OC, I'd say all went exceptionaly well! Thank you all for the courage and knowledge necessary for this experiment. Next time I take Rockell, my .357 Mag 4" Taurus Tracker in a shoulder rig. I can't wait.



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    Norfolk.

    At least NOT EVERY SINGLE cop in Norfolk is a flaming idiot.

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    Wait you open carried and Norfolk Police DID NOT arrest you!:what:LOL!!!!!! Very good though. One small step for OC and one GIANT leap for Norfolk PD:celebrate

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    In all seriousness, it went way better than I expected. I was surprised the Police Officer didn't approach me at all. It was funny that the gentleman at Bob's asked exactly what everyone gets asked, i.e. are you licenced?/are you a cop?

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    The Nofolk police are now into tasing defensless women who are mentally disabled.

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    GLENGLOCKER wrote:
    The Nofolk police are now into tasing defensless women who are mentally disabled.
    I'm guessing you have a link to go with that...
    Why open carry? Because 1911 > 911.

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    AbNo wrote:
    GLENGLOCKER wrote:
    The Nofolk police are now into tasing defensless women who are mentally disabled.
    I'm guessing you have a link to go with that...

    I sure do, Hula Hoop lady. Shes actually an awesome person,I work at the local hospitals andI have spoken with her. All around nice person.

    http://hamptonroads.com/2008/11/char...-granby-street


    I am appauled by the actual police video. Disgusting, and he needs to be let go ASAP. I do not mean to start LEO bashing, but this is just unacceptable.

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    Just reinforces that Norfolk PD is a bunch of aholes IMO! Picking on disabled people is just sick

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    Wow. That's all I can say...WOW! There is no reason for that kind of reaction. Not only should he be fired, but someone should give him an old fashioned ass kicking.

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    GLENGLOCKER wrote:
    The Nofolk police are now into tasing defensless women who are mentally disabled.
    Pamela Brown is now suing the cop for $5 Million. David Codrea is not impressed with Pishko.

    Officer felt he had to Taser Hula Hoop Lady

    By Michelle Washington
    The Virginian-Pilot
    © January 7, 2009

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    The officer who used a Taser to shock the Hula Hoop Lady of Granby Street in October felt he had no choice but to do so, according to Norfolk's city attorney.

    On Tuesday, lawyers for Pamela Brown filed a lawsuit in Norfolk Circuit Court, seeking $5 million in damages against Officer Nicholas Parks. The lawsuit says Parks violated Brown's civil rights and used excessive force during the incident.

    City Attorney Bernard Pishko said Tuesday that he had reviewed the tape with Parks.

    "We're not defending it as best practice," Pishko said. However, "Officer Parks didn't know he was dealing with a citizen who was brain-injured.... All he knew was she was noncompliant and agitated."

    Pishko said he supported dismissing the criminal charges against Brown because there wouldn't have been any point to prosecuting them. Further, he said, Brown had not suffered any serious injury from the shocks.

    "The officer misjudged," Pishko said. "He didn't realize she was brain-damaged and overreacted."

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    That is the most disgusting display of brutality I have ever seen.

    The story claimed that the facist idiot cop didn't know who she was and had no idea she was mentally handicaped... BS... did you catch his remark in the last 15 seconds, "Put your hands behind your back. Maam, I know youare out here all day, I know youcan do it." He knew EXACTLY who she was.

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    jegoodin wrote:
    That is the most disgusting display of brutality I have ever seen.

    The story claimed that the facist idiot cop didn't know who she was and had no idea she was mentally handicaped... BS... did you catch his remark in the last 15 seconds, "Put your hands behind your back. Maam, I know youare out here all day, I know youcan do it." He knew EXACTLY who she was.
    Thats why we need to realise they're after more then our 2A rights. But evertime someone mentions leos doing this stuff the thread lock police show up. Tazers are for lazy police work, it make sit easier for them to get the encounter over with and back in the AC equipped patrol car. At least the people in SF are doing something about out of control police.
    http://nevergetbusted.com/kopbusters/index.php

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    Why don't you folks down state start lobbying todecommission the police departments that are problematic in the Norfolk area. It is possible to return to Sheriff based enforcement. At least that way the Chief LEO in you area is directly accountable to the people, and you can get some results in stopping this sort of thing.
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    Lucky for her he didn't pull his gun like the fine public servant in SF CA.

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    "We're not defending it as best practice," Pishko said. However, "Officer Parks didn't know he was dealing with a citizen who was brain-injured.... All he knew was she was noncompliant and agitated."

    I'm betting that Norfolk PD doesn't get any training on dealing with the medically disabled. In the video, she is clearly displaying hermedic-alert necklace. Obviously, the officer doesn't know what it is, or what it means.

    This is a systematic policy issue within the department.

    I remain that the officer must do what he / she feels necessary to protect themselves.... but c'mon.. if the officer was intimidated by that woman, he needs to find another line of work. But I don't think he was really intimidated, or "in fear" for his safety... he was clearly monotone, non-excited while repeating the order to put her hands behind her back. Again - the officer is following a scripted policy that appears to have no consideration for the medically disabled.

    BTW Squid... nice job on your first outting!


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    what do you mean by "ethnic" friend? :P

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    Glad your Oc experience was a pleasant one.


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    Pishko said. However, "Officer Parks didn't know he was dealing with a citizen who was brain-injured.... All he knew was she was non-compliant and agitated."
    In the video, she is clearly displaying hermedic-alert necklace. Obviously, the officer doesn't know what it is, or what it means.
    IMHO,this officer needs toface civil/ criminal charges.
    As should the City/Police brass if they failed to train this officer on how to deal w/ MD people and when a taser should/shouldn't be employed.

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    I'm glad Hula Hoop Lady wasn't injured too bad.


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    The taser appears to be a crutch that LEO's (with little or no people skills/training) lean on way too much.
    This might would be considered bashing if it weren't true
    The number/type of people tased, that clearly poseno credible threat proves this.


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