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"Young man, first of all calling carbonated soft drinks "POP" is NOT a New York regionalism, it is a Midwestern thing."
I lived in NY, NY for four years and Niagara Falls for two.
Pop is almost as common as the work "like". Although up towards Canada they say "Colas". Whether Colas is a Canadian thing like the phrase "mint"; I don't know, it maybe be northwester NY slang.
"Another teenaged smartaleck knowitall."
Said the 'Republican smartaleck knowitall'.
"In fact, seems to me you are opposed to people having firearms at all."
You got me. My opinions about the unnecessary ownership of assault weapons; designed to be fully automatic, my understanding of the English language in correlation of the second amendment and my post in Selecting a Handgun mean I disapprove of all guns.
How did you know?
"If you do not believe that the right to keep AND BEAR ARMS INCLUDING FIREARMS is sacred, then get your young butt off this ssite and go yammer on the Brady Bunch site. They'll pat you on your li'l puddinhead and give you the self-validation you sso obviously and desperately crave."
Are you guys reading what I'm saying at all?
My point is that you have the right to bear arms.
Arms = WEAPONS.
A bill banning guns or gun accessories is not removing your right to bear arms.
It's removing your privilege to own a certain type of GUN/GUN ACCESSORY. A gun is an arm, but "arms" include guns; as in "arms" isn't limited to firearms, and firearms only.
To marshul-----
I've stayed on topic, the 1st amendment is not on topic, you can make another thread if you'd like.
I see the constitution as above the law.
And by that I mean it's place is to ensure the nation's (America) society's (You, me and everyone in-between) rights as citizens regardless of what the fools who dabble in banks or politics (And politics IS for fools.) say or do.
So let's the government/banks/big business inner circles don't think you should have guns or weapons of any kind to defend yourself?
Then the second amendment says "It's your weapon, you have the right as a citizen to use it in defense of yourself, your rights and your countrymen."
The second amendment isn't specific for a reason. Lets say the asses and elephants are working together to form a military state, to harbor absolute control. The second amendment then has nothing to do with;
"I bought my gun I can keep it!"
It then has everything to do with defending you and your family's lives from the government trying to strip you of what you undeniably DO own, your rights as an American.
A lot of your 'understanding' of the second amendment is similar to the concept; The first amendment means you can call a black person the N word with no repercussions.
(Not calling anyone racist, it's simply an analogy to compare two similar concepts that are of two different things.)
Ha.
"Surrounded by Seattle holier than thou liberals. Fertile, yet moldable mind."
Are you kidding? I'm not so weak as to succomb to Politics.
If you want to talk about molding minds, however. Raise your hand if you go to church!
To Sandcreek------
You understand the second amendment, I find that admirable from what I've seen from everyone else so far.
Regardless of whether or not you and I agree,
Kudos. :]
"I'm sorry, I didn't realize we were pretending to be living in liberal fantasyland.
So we have the right to sticks and knives? Gee, somebody better time travel and tell Sam Adams, Tom Jefferson, and the rest of the founders that they had it all wrong.
In your Obama-baked brain, does the Right to Free Speech only cover talking, also, but not print or other media????
I'm done typing. No wonder 'The Majority' voted the way they did."
Do you all see what politics does to people?
It's a damn shame.
It's like people assume everyone loves politics, and are either a Democrap or Repug.
And if a person is of one general belief ( and the parties are VERY generalized, they encompass hundreds of schools of thoughts within themselves) and someone disagrees with them they assume that person is of the 'opposing' party. Without ever a thought that maybe politics are worthless, and that person knows better.
I don't understand why people think this way, and perhaps never will. But if you're to busy to see that the parties often share benefactors (note that I said parties, not specific candidates for whatever office) and that if guns are ever taken away at all it will be by the government; not one party or the other.
Offtopic------ It's clear that Obama is a fool who likes to listen to his own voice, but atleast he's better than McCain who would jump to war against any handful of countries minding their own business, WMD or not.
Regardless of who's in office, it takes 3 branches of government to make a decision, the presidential office has little more than political/international influence and veto power.
Worry more about who's in the legislation and congress. Be more concerned about child molesters and perverts voting on whether or not to pass a bill, than a "socialist" president who hardly has any ability to make decisions on his own.
Edit: Grammatical errors.