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    A Utah Highway Patrol trooper and a police officer both were busy working the same section of I-15 Sunday night. But as it turned out, only one of the men was a real law enforcement officer.



    It was the sharp-eyed trooper who noticed something wasn't right with a pickup truck pulled over near another vehicle on I-15 Sunday night. Then he noticed something odd.
    From the trooper's dashcam video you can hear him say, "I'm at this traffic stop, and he's got red and yellow lights in his truck.
    Trooper Cameron Roden, spokesman for the Utah Highway Patrol, says, "Cars can't have red lights to the front like a police officer, so he initiated the traffic stop and made contact with the driver."



    That driver, 20-year-old Cooper Deters, was dressed in police-type clothing and combat boots. As troopers searched his truck, they found more evidence, things normal drivers wouldn't carry: a notepad filled with license plate and police dispatch numbers, flex-cuffs and guns.
    "He's got a loaded up AK 47 ready to rock and roll in there, an emergency service jacket that you'd throw on to make you look like you're someone official," a trooper says on the video.
    Deters was arrested and charged with impersonating an officer, as well as making a non-emergency stop on the freeway.
    Right now, investigators say there's no indication he had anything malicious planned.



    Trooper Cameron Roden
    "He stated that he knew we were busy and he was going to come out and help and volunteer where he could," Roden said.
    Investigators don't know if Deters actually pulled anyone over. Deters told them he'd stopped to help the driver of the vehicle he was originally pulled over next to.
    UHP troopers haven't been able to talk to that driver. They ask if you have any information, give them a call at (801) 887-3800.
    They also want the public to know that if something ever feels off during a traffic stop, you can always call dispatch. Here along the Wasatch Front, it's as simple as dialing *11 on your cell phone.
    E-mail: sdallof@ksl.com
    E-mail: bbruce@ksl.com


    http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=4767078



    Anyone from here missing? j/k What the hell is this guy thinking??



    Edit - Updated news story it provides more details now.




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    I don't get it..was this guy OCing at the time?? Or are you trying to vaguely insinuate that we would react to the story by taking the side of the impersonator b/c we are a bunch of backwards thinking rednecks too?

    Relevance?

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    ProtectedBy9mm wrote:
    I don't get it..was this guy OCing at the time?? Or are you trying to vaguely insinuate that we would react to the story by taking the side of the impersonator b/c we are a bunch of backwards thinking rednecks too?

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    Well the story says the guy is 20 years old so he is not old enough to have a CFP and they found weapons inside the vehicle along with string cuffs etc. They only way he could carry legally would be to OC. (the story doesn't say he was). I was not trying to insinuate anything and I would hope/expect that nobody here would defend this guy he is totally in the wrong.

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    So it is ok for a guy to sellvery similar stuff on here but if I post a story about the misuse of it I am in the wrong?Please clarify for me who can post what!!

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    Post what you want, people are free to discuss what you've posted... That goes the same for people selling stuff on here, they can post it, and people can discuss it.

    It's up to the owners of the site to determine if something needs to be removed.

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    Did the guy even have a gun? It just says that they found "weapons". Seems like the media would go out of its way to mention whether or not he had a firearm. My guess is a knife, maybe a ninja sword or nunchucks, given the actions of the guy.

    What an idiot.

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    The news said he had an AR15 and the video showed an officer carrying one from the truck back towards his police car.

    Yeah, the guy was a bone head.


    Oh, and I think that the post is ok for this forum.

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    Walther wrote:
    The news said he had an AR15 and the video showed an officer carrying one from the truck back towards his police car.

    Yeah, the guy was a bone head.
    My bad. It looked like the full story was in the OP.

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    The one I watched said AR15 this one the cop is saying and AK47. So the story might change.

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    ProtectedBy9mm wrote:
    I don't get it..was this guy OCing at the time?? Or are you trying to vaguely insinuate that we would react to the story by taking the side of the impersonator b/c we are a bunch of backwards thinking rednecks too?

    Relevance?
    Man, you do have a complex...Not everything people post is a hit at you...Jesus.

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    ScottyT wrote:
    Walther wrote:
    The news said he had an AR15 and the video showed an officer carrying one from the truck back towards his police car.

    Yeah, the guy was a bone head.
    My bad. It looked like the full story was in the OP.
    It was the full story when I originally postedit. I have updated the story because there are more details out now.

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    glock10mm wrote:
    ProtectedBy9mm wrote:
    I don't get it..was this guy OCing at the time?? Or are you trying to vaguely insinuate that we would react to the story by taking the side of the impersonator b/c we are a bunch of backwards thinking rednecks too?

    Relevance?
    Man, you do have a complex...Not everything people post is a hit at you...Jesus.
    Thank you


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    Unfortunately, YOU HAVE IMMUNITY, from me responding to you...
    I thought I had immunity from 9mm, I guess not.

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    CCarry wrote:
    Thank you


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    Unfortunately, YOU HAVE IMMUNITY, from me responding to you...
    I thought I had immunity from 9mm, I guess not.
    Your welcome, and thanks for that post...I missed it on the news...LOL immunity, I seem to remember that.

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    Ooooookay, wow:

    Two things:

    1) The original unedited post, that was up and un-replied to for over an hour to two, did NOT reflect any firearm. Only a reference to "Weapons". Not even "Dangerous Weapons", just "Weapons". SO, my request for relevance , in my view, was valid. OBVIOUSLY I can see relevance on my own NOW that you have edited the original Post to ensure the definition of "Weapon" is now the equivalent to either and AK-47 or an AR-15. That can be verified by my post at Tue Nov 11th, 2008 05:42 pm and your OP at Tue Nov 11th, 2008 03:45 pm, against the edited post of Wed Nov 12th, 2008 10:34! Nice...

    2) Help me out here: How in the heck do you manage to conceal a rifle? My AR is blacker than night, but you can't miss it. Does it HAVE to be in the rear window to constitute 'in the open', the back seat don't count?

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    CCarry wrote:
    "He's got a loaded up AK 47 ready to rock and roll in there...
    Unless I am mistaken isn't it illegal to have a loaded firearm in you vehicle without a CFP? So, shouldn't he also be charged with a weapons violation?

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    ainokea wrote:
    CCarry wrote:
    "He's got a loaded up AK 47 ready to rock and roll in there...
    Unless I am mistaken isn't it illegal to have a loaded firearm in you vehicle without a CFP? So, shouldn't he also be charged with a weapons violation?
    If it has an empty chamber and is in plain view, he is legal.

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    ScottyT wrote:
    ainokea wrote:
    CCarry wrote:
    "He's got a loaded up AK 47 ready to rock and roll in there...
    Unless I am mistaken isn't it illegal to have a loaded firearm in you vehicle without a CFP? So, shouldn't he also be charged with a weapons violation?
    If it has an empty chamber and is in plain view, he is legal.
    I knew that but the artical says it was loaded. Unless the LEO was just meaning that there was a loaded mag in it and nothing chambered. From reading the article I got the impression that it was Utah Loaded.

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    ScottyT wrote:
    ainokea wrote:
    CCarry wrote:
    "He's got a loaded up AK 47 ready to rock and roll in there...
    Unless I am mistaken isn't it illegal to have a loaded firearm in you vehicle without a CFP? So, shouldn't he also be charged with a weapons violation?
    If it has an empty chamber and is in plain view, he is legal.
    Thats how i figured it. Laid on the rear seat or racked in the rear window, your good to go.

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    IM MISSING! maybeh i got kidnapped

    lmfao! naw, im just missing my old converse, where the hell did those things go?!

    the converse trolls took em!

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    ainokea wrote:
    ScottyT wrote:
    ainokea wrote:
    CCarry wrote:
    "He's got a loaded up AK 47 ready to rock and roll in there...
    Unless I am mistaken isn't it illegal to have a loaded firearm in you vehicle without a CFP? So, shouldn't he also be charged with a weapons violation?
    If it has an empty chamber and is in plain view, he is legal.
    I knew that but the artical says it was loaded. Unless the LEO was just meaning that there was a loaded mag in it and nothing chambered. From reading the article I got the impression that it was Utah Loaded.
    Just because the LEO was quoted assaying that it was loaded up and ready to go does not mean the rifle was NOT Utah UNLOADED.
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    The first news story I seen had an officer claiming that he had flashing red lights like an emergency vehicle, which would be illegal.

    This morning fox13 interviewed the young man & showed the flashing Yellow lights in his back window. And it seems the guy drives around helping broke-down motorists like those UDOT trucks do.

    He does it on his own dime & I can think of much worse ways to spend your spare time. And as for the rifle, I carry a loaded (Utah unloaded)rifle or shotgun in my truck too, plus my sidearm. Nothing wrong with being prepared.

    I've pulled over to offer help on a few occasions, especially when they are in the middle of nowhere. And having a loaded weapon nearby is a comforting thought because you don't know who your dealing with or what the situation is at first.

    Also my guess is that his rifle was "Utah unloaded" because the reporter said that the impersonating an officer charge was still being pursued, but didn't mention anything else. But who knows for sure?:?

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    Mr. Magnum wrote:
    The first news story I seen had an officer claiming that he had flashing red lights like an emergency vehicle, which would be illegal.

    This morning fox13 interviewed the young man & showed the flashing Yellow lights in his back window. And it seems the guy drives around helping broke-down motorists like those UDOT trucks do.

    He does it on his own dime & I can think of much worse ways to spend your spare time. And as for the rifle, I carry a loaded (Utah unloaded)rifle or shotgun in my truck too, plus my sidearm. Nothing wrong with being prepared.

    I've pulled over to offer help on a few occasions, especially when they are in the middle of nowhere. And having a loaded weapon nearby is a comforting thought because you don't know who your dealing with or what the situation is at first.

    Also my guess is that his rifle was "Utah unloaded" because the reporter said that the impersonating an officer charge was still being pursued, but didn't mention anything else. But who knows for sure?:?
    There is a 2 part unedited interview with him on the fox13 website. The person who got arrested admits he had a RED light in the front of his truck and yellow light in the rear window. The cops took the red light and left the yellow ones in the truck because they are legal. He alsosaid he had an AK47 that was Utah Unloaded with him and that LE gave it back to him when he was released from jail. It is a long interview but I think it gives this guy a lot of credit.

    Part 1

    http://www.myfoxutah.com/myfox/pages...1.1&sflg=1

    Part 2

    http://www.myfoxutah.com/myfox/pages...1.1&sflg=1


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    Yep, if he had a red one he's going to get in a bit of trouble.

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