Theseus
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charliegcamp wrote:
If you do have magazines in your pocket you still can't be charged with "loaded" you could only be charged with "concealed" as the magazines don't make the weapon loaded.
12031 is clear in the definition of what loaded is and under no definition in 12031 is possession of a loaded magazine loaded. There are however other sections of law that use a different definition of loaded, but unless you are in specific buildings as defined by PC 171 or the PC that changes the definition of loaded for gang members. (I don't know the relevant PC since I am not a gang member and don't consider it important.)
But that is also why you should have a voice recorder!!! He still isn't allowed to search your pockets unless he has PC!
charliegcamp wrote:
That depends on your state, but in California you should not have magazines in your back pocket. They need to be in a magazine pouch also located on your belt.What if the officer wants to be a d!@k and says that the firearm is considered loaded because i have a loaded magazine in my back pocket within my reach?
If you do have magazines in your pocket you still can't be charged with "loaded" you could only be charged with "concealed" as the magazines don't make the weapon loaded.
12031 is clear in the definition of what loaded is and under no definition in 12031 is possession of a loaded magazine loaded. There are however other sections of law that use a different definition of loaded, but unless you are in specific buildings as defined by PC 171 or the PC that changes the definition of loaded for gang members. (I don't know the relevant PC since I am not a gang member and don't consider it important.)
But that is also why you should have a voice recorder!!! He still isn't allowed to search your pockets unless he has PC!