I have an H&K USP Tactical (Full Size in .45 ACP) and I've never had a failure to feed, failure to extract, stovepipe, or any other type of jam. It is incredibly accurate, even after 400 rounds have been through it without a cleaning. (I would normally clean much more often than that.) Cleaningthe barrelafter a weekend of intense shooting in extremely adverse weather was a snap, taking only 3 wet patches, 3 dry patches, and one oiled patch. Cleaning the rest of the pistol was simple as well.
Amazing firearms... When the 1911's started to jam, the H&K kept printing tight groups.
Just out of curiosity Doug, do you care to elaborate on "excessive" in this context?I have been taught and believe that excessive cleaning is the major source of wear in a modern firearm using quality ammunition.
Cleaning - brushing the bore - just because you've been to the range.Doug Huffman wrote:
Just out of curiosity Doug, do you care to elaborate on "excessive" in this context?I have been taught and believe that excessive cleaning is the major source of wear in a modern firearm using quality ammunition.
Looking at the 'left insert', the hand holding the pistol is gloved I believe.Dont think this is real. Has anyone ever grabbed anything bare handed at that temperature? :what:
400 rounds isn't all that much really. I've put 1000+ through my Kimber without cleaning it, and no failures. I would not suggest it on a regular basis and never with a defense piece, but it went through two days of competition, with two users, no problem.
As for the cleaning, this hasmore to do with the loads that you firethan it does with the gun.
Gordie wrote:400 rounds isn't all that much really. I've put 1000+ through my Kimber without cleaning it, and no failures. I would not suggest it on a regular basis and never with a defense piece, but it went through two days of competition, with two users, no problem.
As for the cleaning, this hasmore to do with the loads that you firethan it does with the gun.
This is true, 400 rounds is not much. Although the weekend was not a competition, it was intense shooting. I normally inspect,clean, and oilafter each time at the range.
I'm not worried about "over cleaning" a polygonal bore.
I've watched that entire video with Todd J. Very immpressive to say the LEAST.shad0wfax wrote:Gordie wrote:400 rounds isn't all that much really. I've put 1000+ through my Kimber without cleaning it, and no failures. I would not suggest it on a regular basis and never with a defense piece, but it went through two days of competition, with two users, no problem.
As for the cleaning, this hasmore to do with the loads that you firethan it does with the gun.
This is true, 400 rounds is not much. Although the weekend was not a competition, it was intense shooting. I normally inspect,clean, and oilafter each time at the range.
I'm not worried about "over cleaning" a polygonal bore.
What exactly is "intense shooting"?
In our matches we use a"manvs. man" format where you shoot against another person. You not only have to shoot accurately, butfaster than the other person. According to a LE firearms instructor that regularly attends our matches, the only way to get more "intense" is to have return fire coming your way.
At some of our steel plate matches we have team events.2 teams on the line at a time, 3 shooters on each team, as many as 30 targets ( but usually about 20) for each team, when the horn sounds, fire. The first team to clear their targets, wins. It's amazing how quickly it's over.
This was taken at one of our pin matches. We have since made it a little more interesting by adding another level of pins under the tables:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgUX1hpa64s
If you want to talk volume:
http://www.paraord.com/new/product_record.php
Note the color of the stainless steel barrel. That was hot!
This was at another pin match, it isn't real fast, but it is pretty cool. Her dad (standing safety behind her) is soooooo proud.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNSG5DtAAY0&feature=related