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Thread: No NPS regulstion published in Friday's Federal Register

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    Under the "Midnight Rules" scenario, Bush had until today to publish a Final Rule for the gun ban in the National Parks system.

    Apparently, that did not happen. If you can find something, help yourself:

    Federal Register, Vol. 73, No. 226, Friday, November 21, 2008

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    Please explain the "Midnight Rules scenario". Thanks.

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    The midnight rule is a presidential power whereby the outgoing president can push though policy changes without congressional approval. As long as he publishes his list of rules to the Federal Registrar by midnight tonight, his changes are legal. While rules can be challenged, the task is often diffucult and lenghty. Ideally Bush could have told the NPS, to allow carry in the parks, and it would have happened. Guess we won't see any positive changes for a long time now.

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    trailblazer2003 wrote:
    The midnight rule is a presidential power whereby the outgoing president can push though policy changes without congressional approval. As long as he publishes his list of rules to the Federal Registrar by midnight tonight, his changes are legal.
    ???

    Congress doesn't "approve" the changes in the Federal Register. The Rules are made by the executive branch agencies, based on authority in laws passed by Congress. Once a proposal has gone through the public notice and comment period and a final Rule is issued, that's it.

    Where did you get your information that Friday was some kind of cut-off date? Bush still controls the executive branch (in theory, at least) until Obama takes office. He could issue an order on January 19, and it would be valid unless/until overturned by Obama.


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    KBCraig wrote:
    trailblazer2003 wrote:
    The midnight rule is a presidential power whereby the outgoing president can push though policy changes without congressional approval. As long as he publishes his list of rules to the Federal Registrar by midnight tonight, his changes are legal.
    ???

    Congress doesn't "approve" the changes in the Federal Register. The Rules are made by the executive branch agencies, based on authority in laws passed by Congress. Once a proposal has gone through the public notice and comment period and a final Rule is issued, that's it.

    Where did you get your information that Friday was some kind of cut-off date? Bush still controls the executive branch (in theory, at least) until Obama takes office. He could issue an order on January 19, and it would be valid unless/until overturned by Obama.
    Ok, thanks for the clarification.

    I guess I jumbled what I read. Read somewhere that once changes are made, it takes 60 days for budgeting to catchup and enact said changes. By the time Obama would take over the chances for reversal of Bush's changes would be much harder.

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    NPS is just trying to run out the clock. Very sad day for gun owners and the rule making process.

    This sort of garbage is what we can expect from bureaucrats. Does NPS have any large office buildings in the VA suburbs of D.C.? We need an open carry protest.
    He wore his gun outside his pants for all the honest world to see. Pancho & Lefty

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    The last thing I heard from Webb's office wasthat they were told that OMB had the regulation for "imminent publication"

    http://www.reginfo.gov/public/do/eAg...?ruleID=283420

    Sure enough. Note that there is no 'deadline', final action listed as "11/00/2008" - ???

    One thing iscertain, there are more games going on here than anybody not involved in the direct process will ever know.

    Rather than post about it here, it would be far more effective to be contacting your rep & senator's offices (of course now they're out of session). Still, you need to put the heat on to change the regs through the appropriate venue.



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