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    In michigan, can an employer, whether private or governmental, prohibit the storage of a weapon in your vehicle while you are on the clock? I seem to remember reading that the governor may sign something prohibiting employers from preventing you from doing this anywhere on there property. I have a C.C.W. and carry my sidearm 24/7.

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    tsafoperator wrote:
    In michigan, can an employer, whether private or governmental, prohibit the storage of a weapon in your vehicle while you are on the clock? I seem to remember reading that the governor may sign something prohibiting employers from preventing you from doing this anywhere on there property. I have a C.C.W. and carry my sidearm 24/7.



    Welcome to OCDO tsa.

    Unfortunately, in Michigan,youremployer can prohibit weapons (firearms) on their property-very much the same as students on college or university property-even though you have a valid CPL and the firearm is secured in your personal vehicle. If you have a firearm (handgun) secured in your vehicle you have not violated any firearm laws. However, you may very well be fired due to violating company policy.

    I don't recall the details, but recently, Florida passed a law that protected employees from being reprimanded/fired by their employer due to having a firearm secured in their vehicle.

    Link: Florida


    ETA: When you mentioned 'governmental', I assumed at a state level. Of course, no carry (possession)on federal property.

    Also see, the stickied Michigan Open Carry Info thread.


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    tsafoperator wrote:
    In michigan, can an employer, whether private or governmental, prohibit the storage of a weapon in your vehicle while you are on the clock? I seem to remember reading that the governor may sign something prohibiting employers from preventing you from doing this anywhere on there property. I have a C.C.W. and carry my sidearm 24/7.
    This is easier to do on private property. I do know that state employees can have weapons in there vehicles in state parking lots. They are not allowed to have them on them when there are on the clock, but can have them when not on duty.

    As Springer states, there would be no firearm law violation, just policy and a reprimand up to firing.
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    *The information contained above is not meant to be legal advice, but is solely intended as a starting point for further research. These are my opinions, if you have further questions it is advisable to seek out an attorney that is well versed in firearm law.

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    Could be worse tsa, my employer regulates firearms even while off the clock. They are kind enough to let us carry, but we cannot enter the property of any company owned store anywhere in the country with a loaded weapon. While on the clock, we cannot have a weapon at all, even in our care.

    Pulling over at the next business over and unloading my weapon anytime I enter the property seems more unsafe then carrying the loaded gun I always carry otherwise, but hey, I need the job

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    tsafoperator wrote:
    In michigan, can an employer, whether private or governmental, prohibit the storage of a weapon in your vehicle while you are on the clock? I seem to remember reading that the governor may sign something prohibiting employers from preventing you from doing this anywhere on there property. I have a C.C.W. and carry my sidearm



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    Q:
    I work for a major Auto Company and shoot at a range next to the plant. It would be convenient for me to leave my pistol locked in my trunk during the day and shoot after work. The plant has a sign in
    the parking lot that says no guns allowed. Am I risking my job if I leave my pistol locked in my car?


    A:
    The short answer is “Yes.” The complete answer is more complex. Michigan law allows a person to carry a concealed pistol “anywhere in this state.” This would seem to cover your employer’s parking lot. But there is an exception found in section 5n(b) which allows an employer to prohibit, “… an employee from carrying a concealed pistol in the course of his or her employment with that employer.” The phrase “in the course of” is not defined in the statute,
    but the workers compensation statute contains identical wording. That statute has been interpreted by the courts as, “…the concept of course of employment was formulated to encompass activity falling within the normal
    sphere of employee activity associated with the work routine.” Parking your car in the employer’s lot would be within the normal sphere of employee activity associated with the work routine. Michigan courts have almost universally found an employee to be in the course of employment while in the
    parking lot or crossing the street between the parking lot and workstation.
    Obviously, you are not carrying the pistol while at your workstation, but you would have to “carry” it into and out of the parking lot. You as an employee have a duty to obey legal rules. Unless somehow modified by a collective bargaining agreement, your employer would be justified in firing you if it
    discovered that you had a gun in your car

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    I work for a major city. (tsafoperator).

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