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    CLIFTON, N.J. – Police are looking for a man they say fatally shot his estranged wife during services at a New Jersey church and badly injured two other people.
    Officials say about 200 people were inside St. Thomas Syrian Orthodox Knanaya Church in Clifton during the shooting Sunday. The shooting was in the church vestibule.
    Police Capt. Robert Rowan says 24-year-old Reshma James died at a hospital. Two other people are in critical condition. All had been shot in the head.
    Police believe the gunman drove to the church from his home in California.
    Members of the church are mostly first-generation immigrants from India and their children.


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    Star-LedgerChurch member Elizabeth Alummottin of Oak Ridge collects her thoughts following a triple shooting at the St. Thomas Syrian Orthodox Knanaya Church. Alummottin said she was inside when the shooting occurred. She heard three shots, and then nothing else. A man shot and killed his estranged wife in a Passaic County church just before noon today, and opened fire on two other people before fleeing in a Jeep, police said.
    Reshma James, 24, died of her injuries about 4 p.m., at St. Joseph's Medical Center in Paterson, Clifton police Detective Capt. Robert Rowan.
    The two other victims, a 47-year-old woman, who was the younger woman's cousin, and a 23-year-old man, remain in extremely critical condition at St. Joseph's Medical Center.
    All three were shot in the head, Rowan said.
    The gunman, identified as 27-year-old Joseph "Sanish" Pallipurath of Sacramento, Calif, opened fire in the vestibule of St. Thomas Syrian Orthodox Knanaya Church, an Asian-Indian house of worship, authorities said.
    Police believe Pallipurath drove to the church from his home in California.
    About 200 people were believed to be inside the sanctuary at the time for a service, Rowan said.
    Police are still searching for Pallipurath, who they said escaped in a 1994 green, soft-topped Jeep with California license plate No. 5HJD200. He is believed to still have the silver handgun he used in the shooting and is considered dangerous, police said.
    James had escaped what police say was an abusive marriage. The abuse dated to their years in India, then continued after they moved to California, police said. Most recently, James had left him to live with a relative in New Jersey, where she filed a restraining order against her husband, Rowan said.
    The document wasn't enough to deter Pallipurath, who confronted his wife and the two others in the church vestibule, toward the end of a three-hour Sunday service, Rowan said. It was unclear why the three victims were not with the rest of the congregation, in the sanctuary.
    Once inside the church, Pallipurath confronted his wife, and after a brief argument, opened fire on all three.
    Multiple 911 calls appear to have been made from the church.
    Numerous law enforcement agencies descended on the scene and have been searching for the shooter.
    According to the church website, members are mostly first-generation immigrants from India, and their children. They had belonged to St. Peter's parish in Yonkers, N.Y., according to the website. The congregation moved into the current location in 2000, making it the largest church in the North American Knanaya Community.
    Clifton Mayor Jim Anzaldi said he heard about the shooting while attending Sunday service in a different church.
    "It's a shock, that somebody would have gone into a church like that," he said. "You always hear about those things happening out west. It's a terrible thing."


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    I'm just suprised there wasn't mention of automatic weapons that turned out to be a .32.

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    I don't believe this at all. Everyone knows guns are illegal in church. There's no way he could have done such a thing...it's ILLEGAL.



    At least nobody else had a gun. Then they might have shot the poor man. Better we have three dead than four. Right?

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    ROFL! I know exactly what you mean. How'd that gun free church zone work out for em in this situation? hmmm Let's check the score.... bad guy 3, good guys 0.

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    The worst part is that people will use this to imply more gun laws are necessary!

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    "It's a shock, that somebody would have gone into a church like that," he said. "You always hear about those things happening out west. It's a terrible thing."


    Wait a minute, the last time that something like this happened "out west", the bad guy died while everyone inside survived. Assuming that Colorado is "out west" anyway.

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    An armed lady in a church sure save a lot of people. Jeanne Assam.



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    Where is it illegal to carry in a church? I don't recall reading that anywhere in the PC.

    "We are a system of laws. If you are in danger get your piece of paper (restraining order) that will keep them at bay long enough for help to arrive."

    This woman should have had a gun. Maybe the roles would have been reversed.

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    I think the saddest part is that in New Jersey, unlike most states, the victim didn't even have the choice to carry a gun cuzof their stupid laws.

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    In Florida, even with a CCW, it's illegal to carry in a Church.

    I don't go to Church anymore.
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    Squid13 wrote:
    The worst part is that people will use this to imply more gun laws are necessary!
    The hoplophobes certainly will, even though this incident, like far too many others,shows that guns laws dont work to prevent crimes but only make it easier for crims to commit them.

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    ixtow wrote:
    In Florida, even with a CCW, it's illegal to carry in a Church.
    I believe that law has been repealed for a while. Check the current statutory CPZ list in Fla. Stat. 790.06(12).
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    Theseus wrote:
    Where is it illegal to carry in a church? I don't recall reading that anywhere in the PC.
    It's NJ. Unless you're an "only one", you don't get to carry anywhere. You're just lucky they let you keep one at home.

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    Moral of the story. Don't hide from a dangerous or abusive spouse or stalker in a "Gun-control" state, county or city. Go where you can procure a firearm, learn how to safely use it, and truly have a chance of protecting yourself.

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    4armed Architect wrote:
    Moral of the story. Don't hide from a dangerous or abusive spouse or stalker in a "Gun-control" state, county or city. Go where you can procure a firearm, learn how to safely use it, and truly have a chance of protecting yourself.
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