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    4:51 PM, November 22, 2008


    Bell Gardens Police Lt. Jeff Travis is telling a story today that he says makes the department's guns-for-money program worth every penny.

    By the end of the event today at St. Gertrude Catholic Church, Bell Gardens police had collected 19 guns and in exchange gave the owners $75 for each firearm.

    Travis said that last Sunday pastors at several churches told congregants about the program. The next day, a distraught man took his gun to his pastor.

    The man said he bought the gun after discovering that his wife was leaving him for another man. He planned to shoot his wife and her boyfriend, and then turn the gun on himself, Travis said. The man then asked his pastor to turn the gun over to police for him, Travis said.

    The man has since received counseling and is "working through this," Travis said, adding that their work today might have saved lives.

    Today's program was the first gun buyback program in Bell Gardens. Travis said he suggested the idea to the police chief after an increase in gang-related crime about two months ago in this city of about 45,000 people, about 10 miles southeast of downtown Los Angeles. The funds for the program were donated by the Bicycle Casino.

    "Hopefully, we got enough guns to make the streets a little safer," Travis said. Thirteen handguns and six rifles were turned in today.

    Los Angeles County sheriff's deputies plan to hold their own gun surrender program at 10 a.m. Nov. 29-30 and Dec. 6-7 at the parking lot of the Ralphs supermarket at 280 E. Compton Blvd. For each gun turned in, sheriff's deputies will give a $100 gift card from Best Buy, Target, Home Depot or Ralphs. Owners of assault we
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    I wonder what would happen if you showed up in the parking lot and offered $25 more then the going by-back price?

    I herd some statistics about this type of program - can't remember exactly but you would have to buy back several thousand guns to prevent ONE crime.

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    GaOwlPoop wrote:
    I wonder what would happen if you showed up in the parking lot and offered $25 more then the going by-back price?

    I herd some statistics about this type of program - can't remember exactly but you would have to buy back several thousand guns to prevent ONE crime.
    Let me know when. I am on the look-out for two mini 14, two 20 gauge shotguns, and a few others. Maybe we can get a good bargain. hehehe.

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    The title of the thread just sank in.

    I'll bet these things would be a lot less successful if they were called what they really are--Gun Surrender Program.
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

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    I wonder how many of the guns they collect are operational? Can't you buy Mosin Nagants for about $75? One could buy 100 of them on 1 DROS for a total cost of $775 and get $1,000 worth of gift cards. Holiday shopping would be solidly taken care of at a profit.

    Of course, most of us would rather have a rifle than a gift card... which reminds me I need a longer stocking to hang on the mantle.
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    I'm not a huge fan of religion, but I feel like pointing out that the state is taking credit with their program, but it was actually the religious institution that this man came to for advice. Turning the gun over to the police was a separate event that involved a gun which had at that point already become possessed by a person without criminal intent. Thus at best the buybacks are redundant. At worst they are without effect.

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    From TFA:
    "Hopefully, we got enough guns to make the streets a little safer," Travis said. Thirteen handguns and six rifles were turned in today.
    This is the kind of bull we're up against. Somehow, people have accepted the misconception that disarming citizens fights the posession of guns by criminals. Quite the contrary: it gives the armed with criminal intent a lethal advantage.

    The most ludacris part of this is: the law enforcment agencies are pushing these "buy back" programs to attempt to "get guns off the streets" or "keep guns away from children". What BS. They offer incentives when they know people need money. I find it predatory.

    It makes you wonder, though... Why so many programs to disarm the citizenry now? Sure they might be offering a "buy back", but it's still disarmament and there should be no program ever put in place to do such a thing. Especially when it's the tax payers who pay for all the expenses of the police force!
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    Yeah Demnogis, in your area I remember when the Watts riots were going on

    I lived in Palos Verdes ans was just home from Boot leave in the Navy in 1965,

    we had neighbors come and ask us to borrow a gun because they knew me and my Dad were hunters and owned guns, we said NO you get your own.

    Funny how people forget the hard times, and the lines at the Sporting goods stores and gunshops were backed up. Even the last LA riots Roddny King, gun shops were full again, and this time there was a 15 day waiting period and many mad people.

    How soon they forget ! Robin47

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    "If that got into the wrong hands of gangbangers, they could kill several people within minutes," Woods said. "Our biggest fear is a house getting burglarized and these guns getting taken."
    If Woods is so "fearful" of homes getting buglarized, then maybe LAPD should do something about that instead of ripping people off with with their bogus "buy-back" schemes!

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    There's another one coming up in San Diego:
    http://waronguns.blogspot.com/2008/1...portunity.html

    Anyone in the area want to see if they will sign the card?
    http://waronguns.blogspot.com/2008/12/wrong-hands.html


    Edit: fixed links. Can't even add HTML links?

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    CA_Libertarian wrote:
    I wonder how many of the guns they collect are operational? Can't you buy Mosin Nagants for about $75? One could buy 100 of them on 1 DROS for a total cost of $775 and get $1,000 worth of gift cards. Holiday shopping would be solidly taken care of at a profit.

    Of course, most of us would rather have a rifle than a gift card... which reminds me I need a longer stocking to hang on the mantle.
    I can see it now...

    ''Uhhh. Officer... I'm here to turn in these 100 Mosin Nagant rifles.''



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    CA_Libertarian wrote:
    I wonder how many of the guns they collect are operational? Can't you buy Mosin Nagants for about $75? One could buy 100 of them on 1 DROS for a total cost of $775 and get $1,000 worth of gift cards. Holiday shopping would be solidly taken care of at a profit.

    Of course, most of us would rather have a rifle than a gift card... which reminds me I need a longer stocking to hang on the mantle.
    Sorry CA Lib, you might want to check your math. 100x75 is $7500, not $750 (+dros). But I agree with the sentiment.
    I have a MN 91/30 that I paid $69 for, but I just can't bring myself to do that to a fine MIL-Surp. But I AM considering turning in a chopped up, worthless Stevens .22.

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    How about if I turn a piece of bar stock attached to a hunk of 2X4, do you all think that they would fall for it???

    Because I'll never do anything as rediculous as give away my means for self defense...

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    The program is a training program for when the turn in is not voluntary.
    He wore his gun outside his pants for all the honest world to see. Pancho & Lefty

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