Well, no, Texans just want the same open carry rights that you have in Washinghton, and those in most states do - to be able to open carry their handguns if they want to, no permit required.Now, correct me if I am wrong, but the main reason for this OC petition in Texas is to ease or eliminate the excessive punishment that occurs for those who happen to unintentionally flash their firearms while CCing.
There is no punishment in Texas for unintentionally flashing or printing. The law requires that someone "intentionally fails to conceal" for there to be a violation.Now, correct me if I am wrong, but the main reason for this OC petition in Texas is to ease or eliminate the excessive punishment that occurs for those who happen to unintentionally flash their firearms while CCing.
Well said, with Mike's clarification. The coat is a dead give away when the temp is over 100, although that is only about three months out of the year.A secondary and I would image, almost equally important reason is due to weather and clothing considerations. No one wants to have to wear a coat in any weather 70f or above.
Yea, your kind of splitting hairs here. There is a thin line between flashing and "failing to conceal" when an LEO or other complainant is looking to make it stick.FMCDH wrote:There is no punishment in Texas for unintentionally flashing or printing. The law requires that someone "intentionally fails to conceal" for there to be a violation.Now, correct me if I am wrong, but the main reason for this OC petition in Texas is to ease or eliminate the excessive punishment that occurs for those who happen to unintentionally flash their firearms while CCing.
But the punishment is harsh, and needless. The point of the Texas OC movement is to eliminate any duty to conceal for a licensee, and to eliminate any need for a license to carry if one chooses to OC.
FMCDH wrote:There is no punishment in Texas for unintentionally flashing or printing. The law requires that someone "intentionally fails to conceal" for there to be a violation.Now, correct me if I am wrong, but the main reason for this OC petition in Texas is to ease or eliminate the excessive punishment that occurs for those who happen to unintentionally flash their firearms while CCing.
But the punishment is harsh, and needless. The point of the Texas OC movement is to eliminate any duty to conceal for a licensee, and to eliminate any need for a license to carry if one chooses to OC.
I don;t think folks are using the term "flash" correctly - flash it seems to ne is mor elike brandishing, normally illegal by statute in many states, or at least actionable as a common law assault, absent justification.Is it reasonable to consider if a person is seen flashing, unintentional or not, there will still be a 'man with a gun' call?
Because if no one sees it, did he really flash? And if a tree falls in the woods, ....
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I believe the term "flash" would be an un-intentional peek of a firearm in its holster, where "brandishing" is normally the intentional showing of a firearm out of its holster, for the intent to intimidate. I suppose this term could be used for showing the weapon in its holster too however.I don;t think folks are using the term "flash" correctly - flash it seems to ne is mor elike brandishing, normally illegal by statute in many states, or at least actionable as a common law assault, absent justification.
Definition of "flash" #32 at Dictionary.com: "to display suddenly and briefly: She flashed her ID card at the guard."Mike wrote:I believe the term "flash" would be an un-intentional peek of a firearm in its holster,I don;t think folks are using the term "flash" correctly - flash it seems to ne is mor elike brandishing, normally illegal by statute in many states, or at least actionable as a common law assault, absent justification.
FMCDH wrote:Definition of "flash" #32 at Dictionary.com: "to display suddenly and briefly: She flashed her ID card at the guard."Mike wrote:I believe the term "flash" would be an un-intentional peek of a firearm in its holster,I don;t think folks are using the term "flash" correctly - flash it seems to ne is mor elike brandishing, normally illegal by statute in many states, or at least actionable as a common law assault, absent justification.
I think the term conotates a brief but deliberate display - not inadvertant shirt rising over holster while reaching up for a can of peas.
Alternatively: She flashed her badge at the check point to get professional courtesy. The gamgster flashed his gun to othger patrons while standing at the bar.
"Flash" is not a good term for us folks.
lol :lol:"Flash" is not a good term for us folks.