Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 25 of 27

Thread: New Banner Ads

  1. #1
    Administrator John Pierce's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Bristol, VA
    Posts
    1,735

    Post imported post

    As many of you know, we had been using Google AdSense in order to generate the funds to pay for site hosting.

    As you may have noticed, those ads have not been there for several months. Google has a policy against "firearms" related sites and they finally decided we were not in compliance with their terms of service.

    I am now trying a new ad service called AdBrite. If anyone has any comments about the service, please feel free to share.

    Thanks!


    John


  2. #2
    Campaign Veteran
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    RTM, Lake Linden, Michigan, USA
    Posts
    232

    Post imported post

    I have used Adbrite in the past and found them to be better income wise, but more strict on ad spammers. As google would ban a clearly abusing IP address spamming your ads and not count them, Adbrite has a tendancy to ban or suspend you instead.

    It is good to know Google does not believe in expressing or sharing our constitional rights. At least we know where theircorporate leadershipstands on America and Americans and thier rights.

  3. #3
    Moderator / Administrator Grapeshot's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    North Chesterfield, Va.
    Posts
    34,605

    Post imported post

    To which other freedoms does Google object? (rhetorical)

    I say good ridence and good luck with Adbrite.

    Yata hey
    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training. Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

  4. #4
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    , ,
    Posts
    44

    Post imported post

    I'm not sure if this is due to your new ad software, but I have had several occasions over the last two days where I've been redirected away from your site to "spam" sites. Something appears to be amiss -- this only happens when I'm in the ODCO forums and nowhere else I surf on the Internet. It looks like someone may have either hacked your site or thrown in ads which cause periodic and random redirects. Each time, I see an error page indicating I'm being redirected to a page which potentially contains malware at a time when I was not navigating away from ODCO.

    Just a heads-up. This may be indicative of a "random" web attack on your site or a directed effort by someone you may not agree with.

  5. #5
    Moderator / Administrator Grapeshot's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    North Chesterfield, Va.
    Posts
    34,605

    Post imported post

    bcbrown2 wrote:
    I'm not sure if this is due to your new ad software, but I have had several occasions over the last two days where I've been redirected away from your site to "spam" sites. Something appears to be amiss -- this only happens when I'm in the ODCO forums and nowhere else I surf on the Internet. It looks like someone may have either hacked your site or thrown in ads which cause periodic and random redirects. Each time, I see an error page indicating I'm being redirected to a page which potentially contains malware at a time when I was not navigating away from ODCO.

    Just a heads-up. This may be indicative of a "random" web attack on your site or a directed effort by someone you may not agree with.
    Next time this happens, send jpierce (moderator) a PM with as much site data/information as you can capture. On the error page you can right click, select "properties" and copy that page for John - jpierce.

    It could still be something within your computer doing this. Might try running a complete scan on your stuff just to be sure.

    Yata hey
    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training. Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

  6. #6
    Moderator / Administrator Grapeshot's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    North Chesterfield, Va.
    Posts
    34,605

    Post imported post

    Since I cannot edit on this thread, I will correct above post to read: On the error page you can right click, select "page source & page information" and copy those pages for John - jpierce.

    Yata hey
    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training. Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

  7. #7
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2008
    Location
    , ,
    Posts
    1,422

    Post imported post

    My wife just discovered the same thing on Hotmail, and it's because of the ads. As the ad loads it does a redirect and off the browser goes. I turned AdMuncher back on and she has no more problems.

  8. #8
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    , ,
    Posts
    44

    Post imported post

    For what it's worth, I'm using a Mac and surf mainly in Safari, which does a good job of filtering out adware and spyware. Only on ODCO have I encountered these issues during my sessions and the weirdest thing I've seen yet is a quick flash to a popup window which seems to get caught and closed but a disembodied audio stream advertising stuff comes up until I close the ODCO tab and come back in.

    Should I get bounced again I will send the admin a copy of the page source for redirection but I can confirm this issue is not being caused by something on my machine and appears to have cropped up after changing ad providers. If I encounter any more of these I'll forward along to the admin team. Best of luck with this -- advertisement on the Internet is still largely like living in the Wild West and you have to be quicker to the draw (or in this case the window-close icon) than the spammer.

  9. #9
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Manhattan, Kansas, USA
    Posts
    309

    Post imported post

    I suspect that AdBrite deals in malware, as yesterday my computer started acting wonky all over after viewing the boards. It took me 6 hours to clean a piece of malware filth off called "Vundo".

    I'd ditch them myself. Shame about Google - guess they're asking to be kicked out like all the other searches in the past.

  10. #10
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Manhattan, Kansas, USA
    Posts
    309

    Post imported post

    One other thing, where does google have this "no firearms" policy?

  11. #11
    Campaign Veteran deepdiver's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Southeast, Missouri, USA
    Posts
    5,974

    Post imported post

    Apparently my security layers were sufficient to stop whatever it was as I have had no such issues.
    Bob Owens @ Bearing Arms (paraphrased): "These people aren't against violence; they're very much in favor of violence. They're against armed resistance."

  12. #12
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Manhattan, Kansas, USA
    Posts
    309

    Post imported post

    deepdiver, what browser are you using and antivirus? My antivirus didn't find it and Firefox blocked a number of popups but not new tabs opening - I removed it with Malwarebytes after having a difficult time getting Spybot S&D to nail it.

  13. #13
    Campaign Veteran deepdiver's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Southeast, Missouri, USA
    Posts
    5,974

    Post imported post

    Walleye wrote:
    deepdiver, what browser are you using and antivirus? My antivirus didn't find it and Firefox blocked a number of popups but not new tabs opening - I removed it with Malwarebytes after having a difficult time getting Spybot S&D to nail it.
    I run Firefox with the NoScript add-on for a browser (to deal with those pesky IE only sites which I have to deal with a lot at work, I use the IE tab or the Agent Switcher add-ons to make the other computer think I'm running IE - it works about 98% of the time). I have Firefox set up to delete all personal information every time I shut it down. I run Bitdefender Internet Security Suite for anti-virus which also has anti-spam and anti-phishing filters. I also have Spyware Blaster and SpyBot Search & Destroy installed and up to date. It appears to work pretty well. I didn't even know that OCDO had any ads on the site until I happened to browse the forums one day without logging in and saw a few, but still didn't see most of the ads people were talking about until I looked at it on a friends computer. Some part of my security software filters out all of that.

    I ran a deep spyware/virus scan tonight in Bitdefender and a full Spybot scan and found no spyware/malware on my computer. I don't know which parts of which software is catching what (before getting Bitdefender last summer I ran AVG free anti-virus, ZoneAlarm free firewall, Spybot Search & Destroy, Spyware Blaster and Firefox without the NoScript add-on for about 3 years and still never got spy/malware on my computer using those FREE (freeware) programs).

    I also manually run a little free program called "CleanUp!" (another freeware) to clean up all cache before I turn off my computer as well as a little program called MRU-Blaster (yep, freeware) to delete those pesky clogging MRUs every other day or so or more often if I have hit a sight where I might have been exposed to spy/malware. That just gets rid of a possible hiding spy/malware/trojan hiding out in the memory or cache that will run on a reboot. It is easier to get rid of it before shutting down than after it is trying to install on a reboot.

    I'm fairly knowledgable on computers although I am far from a computer guru or a Level III tech. Some of that stuff may be unnecessary or redundant in some people's opinions, however, I have set up a lot of friend's and family's computers with all that freeware and have only once had to fix one again because they got infected and that was because they hadn't run an update. Most of it runs passively and the other stuff uses no more memory than stuff you buy. The only downside to the free stuff is that you have to manually update a lot of it.

    I've tried a lot of different security programs (anti-virus, anti-spam, pop-up blockers, firewalls, etc) over the years and finally settled on the above combination as the best of the free stuff. I have also used Norton home and corporate, McAfee (which I will never recommend to anyone for any reason) and TrendMicro anti-virus and internet security suites. Of those I think the best is TrendMicro (PC-cillin), but this year Bitdefender was rated better and as my TrendMicro on the one computer was expiring, I just bought a multi-license Bitdefender and replaced the TrendMicro and put it on the other computers as well. I've also used and tested a lot of different firewalls over the years and while I like ZoneAlarm Pro firewall's added features over the free version, I do not like their security suite. It is all that dinking around with liking this but not that, that finally got me settled on my current 2 configurations I use, one including purchased software Ifor computers I use professionally) and the other using all freeware (for computers that are personal use only).

    If anyone wants links to any of that freeware I mentioned above just PM me and I'll give you the links to it.
    Bob Owens @ Bearing Arms (paraphrased): "These people aren't against violence; they're very much in favor of violence. They're against armed resistance."

  14. #14
    Campaign Veteran
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    RTM, Lake Linden, Michigan, USA
    Posts
    232

    Post imported post

    Googles policy denies users who do anythingsuch as:"Sales or promotion of weapons or ammunition (e.g., firearms, fighting knives, stun guns)" here we promote firearms. This information can be found at https://www.google.com/adsense/suppo...mp;medium=link

    Ironically we promote the legal expression of our rights with regards to firearms, and Google won't let adsense users use ads when the site infringes on the legal rights of others, despite Google infringing on our legal rights.

  15. #15
    Moderator / Administrator Grapeshot's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    North Chesterfield, Va.
    Posts
    34,605

    Post imported post

    northofnowhere wrote:
    Googles policy denies users who do anythingsuch as:"Sales or promotion of weapons or ammunition (e.g., firearms, fighting knives, stun guns)" here we promote firearms. This information can be found at https://www.google.com/adsense/suppo...mp;medium=link

    Ironically we promote the legal expression of our rights with regards to firearms, and Google won't let adsense users use ads when the site infringes on the legal rights of others, despite Google infringing on our legal rights.
    But it is there legal right, private property you know.

    I have the same dissatisfaction/complaint regarding no gun rules in retail establishments. IMO - we need an additional level in the public/private property schematic - that of quasi-public wherein if the public is invited to shop/visit then they cannot claim private property status for purposes of regulating - they are essentially the same as a public facility.

    Yata hey
    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training. Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

  16. #16
    Regular Member TFred's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Most historic town in, Virginia, USA
    Posts
    7,705

    Post imported post

    Grapeshot wrote:
    To which other freedoms does Google object? (rhetorical)

    I say good ridence and good luck with Adbrite.

    Yata hey
    Sadly, Google is quite well known in the left-leaning circles. Their name shows up in all the most dreaded circumstances (political support-wise). It's quite sad, technically, they are a very good company and quite on the edge of innovation. I'm sure they have given MS a near permanent crick in their neck from all the looking over their shoulder... and that is no small feat.

    To get back on topic, I've had no issues with the ads, using FireFox, with no special plugins, etc, just pop-up blocker, but it never kicks in for this site.

    Glad to see that OCDO is getting some support. I am considering a purchase of one of those CrossBreed holsters, they look pretty cool.

    TFred

  17. #17
    Regular Member FMCDH's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2008
    Location
    St. Louis, MO
    Posts
    2,043

    Post imported post

    I use Firefox with AdBlock Plus and No Script. I haven't experienced any problems with pop ups or re-directions.

    The adds don't bother me, I just have ABP remove them automatically anyway. Sorry, its my browser, my computer, I get to decide who advertises to me.

  18. #18
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    Manhattan, Kansas, USA
    Posts
    309

    Post imported post

    I'd like to give a big thumbs up on the 'new' new ads - stuff we're actually interested in!


    Yeah, the "Obama for prez? get $50 for your answer!" ads of old were getting annoying as heck...

  19. #19
    Regular Member shad0wfax's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Spokane, Washington, USA
    Posts
    1,067

    Post imported post

    Thanks for ditching Googles Adsense. The new advertisements seem to all be gun-related, which makes me happy.

  20. #20
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2008
    Location
    Louisville KY, ,
    Posts
    234

    Post imported post

    Admins, not sure where to post this but...the Crossbreed banner is darn near locking up the website.

  21. #21
    Regular Member compmanio365's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Location
    Pierce County, Washington, USA
    Posts
    2,013

    Post imported post

    It's an animated GIF that is botched as all heck. If a GIF isn't properly compiled, it will take up 100% CPU, which this one is definitely doing. Back to blocking all ads from this site.

  22. #22
    Regular Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Woodland, California, USA
    Posts
    155

    Post imported post

    DIRECTLY FROM THE GOOGLE POLICY PAGE


    Sites displaying Google ads may not include:
    • Violent content, racial intolerance, or advocacy against any individual, group, or organization
    • Pornography, adult, or mature content
    • Hacking/cracking content
    • Illicit drugs and drug paraphernalia
    • Excessive profanity
    • Gambling or casino-related content
    • Content regarding programs which compensate users for clicking on ads or offers, performing searches, surfing websites, or reading emails
    • Excessive, repetitive, or irrelevant keywords in the content or code of web pages
    • Deceptive or manipulative content or construction to improve your site's search engine ranking, e.g., your site's PageRank
    • Sales or promotion of weapons or ammunition (e.g., firearms, fighting knives, stun guns)
    • Sales or promotion of beer or hard alcohol
    • Sales or promotion of tobacco or tobacco-related products
    • Sales or promotion of prescription drugs
    • Sales or promotion of products that are replicas or imitations of designer goods
    • Sales or distribution of term papers or student essays
    • Any other content that is illegal, promotes illegal activity, or infringes on the legal rights of others


    we arent promoting weapons or ammunition, we are promoting rights.

    but if you look at their first policy they have, what about when they were helping obama run against mccain? isnt that advocacy against a group or individual? i guess it is their property so they can do what they want...i dont support the google hippies anyways...

  23. #23
    Regular Member ProShooter's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Location
    www.ProactiveShooters.com, Richmond, Va., , USA
    Posts
    4,671

    Post imported post

    Can banner ads be specific to one particular forum?
    James Reynolds

    NRA Certified Firearms Instructor - Pistol, Shotgun, Home Firearms Safety, Refuse To Be A Victim
    Concealed Firearms Instructor for Virginia, Florida & Utah permits.
    NRA Certified Chief Range Safety Officer
    Sabre Red Pepper Spray Instructor
    Glock Certified Armorer
    Instructor Bio - http://proactiveshooters.com/about-us/

  24. #24
    Administrator John Pierce's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Bristol, VA
    Posts
    1,735

    Post imported post

    Unfortunately no.


    ProShooter wrote:
    Can banner ads be specific to one particular forum?

  25. #25
    Regular Member TFred's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Most historic town in, Virginia, USA
    Posts
    7,705

    Post imported post

    jpierce wrote:
    Unfortunately no.

    ProShooter wrote:
    Can banner ads be specific to one particular forum?
    I have no idea how much influence, or ability you have to request change with the particular entity or entities that prevent you from having forum-specific advertising, but considering the grassroots nature of our subject material, and the fact that you have at least 50 highly localized audiences, I suspect you would see a substantial increase in advertising if you could somehow manage to get this feature for the boards.

    I bet there are a lot of small businesses that would be very happy to spend advertising money when they know it's going to be seen by folks who are likely to be in close enough proximity to utilize their services, and we have seen it demonstrated over and over again that the readers of these forums are very willing to patronize businesses who support the cause.

    You know, if nothing else, maybe you could offer a "sponsored sticky post" at the top of individual forums. The advertiser could purchase a sticky, locked message of a certain size, or number of lines, perhaps with a banner ad graphic embedded inside the message itself.

    Just a thought.

    TFred


Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •