wardog6d wrote:
Well Personally I dont see hardly anyone post there positive experiance's with OCing and LEO's? As a group trying to promote OCing wouldnt it be more benificial to promote positive expericance's of OCing instead of everything Negative? With all TV and News articles these are all positive experiance's for everyone involved and OCing in general. With all the members I am sure some have some sort of positive experiance? I may be wrong I dont know?
Combine that, with this:
wardog6d wrote:
...I have not read enough of this forum and planned to be well informed prior to posting.....
I asked you for specific incidents of posts on this board that gave you an impression of a general negative attitude toward LEO. I explained to you that people get called on such unsubstantiated claims here, and called on you to cite the examples. Instead of doing that, you spout of some mantra about "hardly anyone post
ing their positive experiences with OC'ing and LEO's." "...instead of everything Negative..." Then, you claim in the same paragraph that you haven't even read enough on this forum. How can you make such a judgement, when you can't cite examples, and haven't even read enough to see that your impression is completely wrong?
Not trying to chastise you here, but just pointing out the bigger picture. If you'd read through the "List your Open Cary Experiences" thread, you'd see many examples of positive experiences. Also, keep in mind that police officer these days rarely talk to citizens on a completely benign basis. Sad fact is that they are just too undermand, and overwhelmed to spend the time to do so. Most of the times, when people have interaction with an LEO, it's because said citizen did something wrong. Since OC is not even reasonable suspicion for a Terry Stop, chances are that an officer stopping someone for OC is going to be reported as a negative encounter. Even so, there are probably just as many positive reports as there are negative reports.
Again, cite the examples of "negative attitude toward LEO's" that you are referring to. Otherwise, your claim just comes off as an unwarranted defensive attitude. Like I said, citing such examples, and explaining the problem with them, would help us work toward a solution. They way your doing it only makes things worse as it's just "slinging mud". What your doing does nothing but stirr up emotion, and sounds like an emotional reaction itself.
Facts please (with sugar on top
). Cite the examples your refering to. Don't take this personally. We need to know what you are talking about. We need your help. However, if you can't cite specific examples, then it's more harm than help.
