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I inquired about carrying at the local walmart today.

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Grapeshot wrote:
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It would be hard to call Walmart anti-gun, since they sell long guns and ammo in all the stores.
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No they assuredly do not. They Richmond, Va. stores stopped selling long guns over a year ago and very little ammo is still stocked. I suspect this will be gone shortly too.

I guess they can't find enough of either "made in China."

Yata hey
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I stand corrected then. Let me reword, then. All of the Walmarts that I have been in, so far still sell long guns and ammo.
 
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Task Force 16 wrote:
Grapeshot wrote:
Task Force 16 wrote:
It would be hard to call Walmart anti-gun, since they sell long guns and ammo in all the stores.
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No they assuredly do not. They Richmond, Va. stores stopped selling long guns over a year ago and very little ammo is still stocked. I suspect this will be gone shortly too.

I guess they can't find enough of either "made in China."

Yata hey
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I stand corrected then. Let me reword, then. All of the Walmarts that I have been in, so far still sell long guns and ammo.
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The WalMart near Kingstowne shopping center in Alexandria, VA doesn't sell long guns anymore. They used to, but I'm not sure when they stopped. They sell ammo, but it's waay back in the corner. And they wouldn't sell me .22LR because I wasn't 21.... but they would sell me .308 winchester and shotgun slugs. I haven't gone back to see if it's cleared up yet, but I need to get on that.

Edit: Update- They called me and have supposedly resolved the issue, so that I may now purchase .22LR.
 
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Folks take a look at the last few entries on this thread:
http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum65/7352-6.html

For every thread you find a name and contact number add it to your phone and when you are approached let them know that these Walmart Senior officials allow weapons carry.



XD-GEM wrote: "This was posted on the PAFOA forum last week. It explains Walmart policy by quoting from an executive with Walmart. " I placed a call to Wal-Mart Corporate. They directed me back down to the Regional Marketing Office. They gave me POC name Cory Confer @ 570-821-6180. I called – he’s out today but the Regional Management Assistant took my info and told me that one of the other Regional Mangers would return my call. So….Mr Robert Reck called me back. 717 Area Code. He was absolutely confident in his tone. He was “at-his-fingertips” clear about Wal-Mart policy. And was absolutely FIRM with his answer. And I was bowled over SHOCKED at how friendly and supportive Mr Reck was. I told him the details of the incident. I didn’t tell Mr. Reck that his manager was condescending at one point. And I didn’t tell Mr. Reck that I drew attention to the manager’s weight. I DID tell Mr Reck that the two managers handled the entire situation without drawing any attention whatsoever to what we were talking about. Now for the shocker – and this is from coming from the Regional Manager servicing areas south of us (717 area code). Mr. Reck was pleased that his managers did not draw attention to the situation. HOWEVER – he was alarmed that the managers made me cover up and even more alarmed that I was told that if I am seen OC’ing in Wal-Mart again…..they’d call DCPD and have me escorted out. He flat out told me that is untrue and his managers were WRONG. They absolutely CANNOT ask customers to cover. Reason is that the managers have no right to demand you to produce your carry permit (though he said they can ask???) and therefore cannot definitively prove that you ARE a valid LTCF holder. Mr Reck was immediately alarmed because he knew that that practice could, invariable, cause a customer to be in a situation where they ARE breaking the law (concealed with no permit). Kudos to him. Point#1 – Wal-Mart Regional Manager Robert Reck said managers are NOT permitted to tell customers to cover….ever. Mr. Reck was even more alarmed that I was told that the DCPD would escort me out if I were seen OC’ing again. He said that is absolutely untrue and that I should NOT be asked to leave the store based on the fact that I have a firearm on my hip. Lawfully armed citizens are welcome in Wal-Mart. Mr. Reck acknowledged that there is new management in place and said that he will absolutely be getting in touch with store #1884 (Dickson City) management to refresh them on how to handle lawfully armed customers. Point#2 – Wal-Mart Regional Manager Robert Reck said managers are NOT permitted to tell customers to leave the store because of lawful firearms carry. SO……how ARE they supposed to handle us? Mr. Reck explained. If another customer were to notify management that they are nervous because they saw another customer with a firearm…..then management WILL approach the armed customer and ask if they have a permit (why he was saying this, I dunno). There isn’t much more that management can do – Mr. Reck says that he trains all his managers to, if in such a situation, approach and introduce and ask if the gun carrier is a permit holder (but they cannot demand it produced). Then the manager is supposed to go BACK to the initial customer who complained and reassure them that the armed customer, for all intensive purposes, is lawfully carrying a firearm. Another thing that Mr. Reck made ABSOLUTELY clear is that managers ARE NOT to tell customers to go back and secure their firearm in their vehicle. Because, he said, first of all, lawfully armed citizens are welcome in Wal-Mart. Secondly, he briefly shared a story about an incident that occurred recently in his jurisdiction…….a manager wrongfully instructed a customer to leave the store and lock the gun in his car….then he may return to the store. Wellllll somebody overheard this and when the gun guy went back into the store, his firearm was stolen from his vehicle. Mr Reck said that incident turned into quite a mess. Point#3 – Wal-Mart Regional Manager Robert Reck said managers are NOT permitted to tell customers to go lock their firearms in their vehicles. So towards the end of our conversation I asked Mr. Reck……”So the next time I visit the Dickson City Wal-Mart, may I be permitted to continue to wear my firearm as I always had?” He said “Absolutely.” He’ll be getting in touch with the 1884 management team to clarify Wal-Marts firearm policy. I’ll let you know next Saturday! __________________ Gary in Pennsylvania""
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I'm going to have to agree with the first couple of glocktalk replies.
 
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I'm not sure why ANYONE would really even register at that GlockTalk site. Not since my College days have I seen so much arrogance and Egotisitic Pig headedness. Just looking at your link makes me want to puke. See how Big Headed they were to you ? That's sad that those people even have guns.

ANYWAY,

I think like most here, you'll find the answers here on the forum.

NO COUNTY, NO PARISH, NO CITY, can impose laws that are more strict than the level above them = STATE LAW.

But if a Manager want's to play the Private property game with you, then carry your ass off the property. Just be sure to POLITELY explain that neither you nor ANYONE else in your family will ever shop there again. And be sure to tell them why.

B/c they refuse to allow you your freedoms.
 
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She said only LEO can carry in the store period.
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i have mixed emotions for wal mart. sometimes i go in and everything goes smooth, sometimes i go in and get "kicked out" for carrying. always the same thing, "you cant carry if your not a cop" then i say "theres no sign" then "yes there is" then i say ok and carry on with what ever i am doing. never been thrown out i just say ok ill check, then come back later with my gun on my hip again lol. i even told her im military but apparently that doesnt count for s*** when it comes to weapons...
 
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I'm gonna post this here since it may be taken slightly better than my beloved Glocktalk where I received *VERY* heavy flak. No one seemed to get the notion that I was inquiring to gauge my ability to OC in this particular store, not just CC as I always have and I'd rather ask than have some wackjob manager running out yelling "OMG, he's got a gun!!"

I always go concealed when in the store and I finally after hearing so many different threads and such about it, decided to inquire locally. I can't recall seeing and signs up(which I went in lawn and garden but that shouldn't matter) and went to the gun counter where a friend of mine works. I had her call the manager up and tell the manager a gentleman was in here inquiring about carrying a handgun with valid TN permit in the store.
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Again, why do this? Why poke a hornets nest? Don't ask, Don't tell applies to oepn carry. What employee in her right mind would ever give permsission for somebody to carry a gun?
 
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We have gotten off thread discussing availability of guns and ammo at Wally World. The OP pertained to "permission" to carry OC or CC there.

Mike is right 2006HighSierra. Do NOT ask for or demand permission - read the signs and if not forbidden just proceed to do whichever you do. Would you ask for permission to park your tractor (as in tractor-trailer) in their lot when shopping, would you seek corporate policy? Suspect that because it isn't expressly forbidden, you would park it and if asked to move it, you would. Hint - park at the edge of the lot.

Asking for permission to do what is not denied cannot improve the situation but could seriously damage it. Push them too hard for this and they may find it easier to just say "No."

My advice - leave it alone until and if you are asked to leave - which is a very rare circumstance. Then do so immediately and follow up with the appropriate conversations in a polite and professional manner.

I have OCd in many of the Wal-Marts in Va. & Pa. without major problem. Their corporate policy is reported to be that they follow/honor state law where the store is located.

Yata hey

PS to yale - that's carrying a dead weapon:)
 
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yale wrote:
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PS to yale - that's carrying a dead weapon:)
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But the point is, it's not a GUN. We have to protect the children from the evil guns. Do it for the children. :lol:
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To the choir: We do protect the children from evil guns....with good gun guns - in Wally Worlds. churches and sometimes even in schools.

Yata hey
 
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I respect your belief Grapeshot, but I disagree somewhat.

I agree that we should not be asking permission, but I believe that we have the right to understand what the policy really is. If we can get a firm statement for or against OC we then know that we can consider taking our business elsewhere.

The problem is that you can shop there 10 times and be asked to leave the 11th.

I also believe that we start putting pressure on them and other major stores to enact a pro-OC policy or risk our business. And I don't mean just Wal-Mart & Target, I mean shopping mall's, 7-11's, and basically any company that does business with the public.

Target has not given me one iota of problem about OC in any of the 5 Target stores I have carried.

Admittedly Wal-Mart has not either, but I almost never go to Wal-Mart and usually go to Target once or twice a week.

Grapeshot wrote:
We have gotten off thread discussing availability of guns and ammo at Wally World. The OP pertained to "permission" to carry OC or CC there.

Mike is right 2006HighSierra. Do NOT ask for or demand permission - read the signs and if not forbidden just proceed to do whichever you do. Would you ask for permission to park your tractor (as in tractor-trailer) in their lot when shopping, would you seek corporate policy? Suspect that because it isn't expressly forbidden, you would park it and if asked to move it, you would. Hint - park at the edge of the lot.

Asking for permission to do what is not denied cannot improve the situation but could seriously damage it. Push them too hard for this and they may find it easier to just say "No."

My advice - leave it alone until and if you are asked to leave - which is a very rare circumstance. Then do so immediately and follow up with the appropriate conversations in a polite and professional manner.

I have OCd in many of the Wal-Marts in Va. & Pa. without major problem. Their corporate policy is reported to be that they follow/honor state law where the store is located.

Yata hey

PS to yale - that's carrying a dead weapon:)
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Grapeshot wrote:
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Would you ask for permission to park your tractor (as in tractor-trailer) in their lot when shopping, would you seek corporate policy? Suspect that because it isn't expressly forbidden, you would park it and if asked to move it, you would. Hint - park at the edge of the lot.

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So ... What are you saying ... if we OC Walmart we should stay near the walls at all times?:lol:
 
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Hawkflyer wrote:
Grapeshot wrote:
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Would you ask for permission to park your tractor (as in tractor-trailer) in their lot when shopping, would you seek corporate policy? Suspect that because it isn't expressly forbidden, you would park it and if asked to move it, you would. Hint - park at the edge of the lot.

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So ... What are you saying ... if we OC Walmart we should stay near the walls at all times?:lol:
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Just knew that somebody would pick up on that. Now I know who. :lol:

But to answer your question - yes if you hear a "backfire" while inside. :uhoh:

Yata hey
 
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Theseus wrote:
I agree that we should not be asking permission, but I believe that we have the right to understand what the policy really is. If we can get a firm statement for or against OC we then know that we can consider taking our business elsewhere.
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Today while shopping in Northeast Mall, I noticed that the EyeMasters that I patronize was displaying a 30.06 notification prohibiting carriage of a concealed handgun by license holders. When I got home I sent their corporate office an e-mail notifying that I would no longer do business with them and explained why. All fourin my family wear glasses and have used this storefor over ten years.

I advised them that I am a member of a national organization that maintains a "do not patronize" list with respect to 2a issues and requested a response as to whether the 30.06 notificationreflects corporate policy. We'll see if they care.
 
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Mike wrote:
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The WalMart near Kingstowne shopping center in Alexandria, VA doesn't sell long guns anymore.
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Whoa! That WalMart is liketwo thousand merers from my house!
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There goes the neighborhood. :lol:

Yata hey
 
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If your state allows open cary the institutution you inter must have it posted that they do not allow it. If it is posted the institution must provide safe and secure storage for your fire arm till you leave the the premisis. This is the Az. law. You can check your states laws on the net.
 
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