ixtow
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Invite them to come see how it really works.
Invite them to come see how it really works.
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Borough of West Mifflin PA Proposed Gun Ban at Its Meetings
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Pa. Patriot
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Latest snip from the topix grapevine...
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/mckeesport-pa/TQQM7NJ4D5MU6HDH6/post26
Latest snip from the topix grapevine...
http://www.topix.com/forum/city/mckeesport-pa/TQQM7NJ4D5MU6HDH6/post26
TFred
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Pa. Patriot wrote:
TFred
Pa. Patriot wrote:
Huh!? Because people who carry guns can't control themselves from speaking out of turn? Good strategy!
TFred
Pa. Patriot
State Researcher
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Why don't the just violate some more laws and have their meetings in secret, behind closed doors...? They're so obviously corrupt what's the sense of trying to hide it now?
Why don't the just violate some more laws and have their meetings in secret, behind closed doors...? They're so obviously corrupt what's the sense of trying to hide it now?
david.ross
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Okay, how about someone put on the agenda the ordinance regarding the metal detectors and attempted official oppression?
Okay, how about someone put on the agenda the ordinance regarding the metal detectors and attempted official oppression?
TFred
Regular Member
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http://www.westmifflinborough.com/administration/council/meetings.html
Looks like you have about 15 minutes from now to request addition to the agenda!
TFred
Oops, can I do math? 27 hours before 6:30 tomorrow was 15 minutes before I posted this! ::sigh:: I guess they want to get it done before the normal close of business the day before the meeting.
ETcorrect math!
http://www.westmifflinborough.com/administration/council/meetings.html
Looks like you have about 15 minutes from now to request addition to the agenda!
TFred
Oops, can I do math? 27 hours before 6:30 tomorrow was 15 minutes before I posted this! ::sigh:: I guess they want to get it done before the normal close of business the day before the meeting.
ETcorrect math!
david.ross
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Well, lets find someone to add to the agenda for the Jan 20th meeting.
Well, lets find someone to add to the agenda for the Jan 20th meeting.
TFred
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Wow, I must really be asleep at the keyboard... the meeting is tonight at 6:30, not tomorrow... please just ignore my last post!
:uhoh:
TFred
Wow, I must really be asleep at the keyboard... the meeting is tonight at 6:30, not tomorrow... please just ignore my last post!
:uhoh:
TFred
TFred
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Google News search pops up a slightly related story which just hit about an hour ago. Maybe this will give them an "excuse" out of their dilemma... of course they don't seem to see that they are in one. :?
TFred
Charges of threatening West Mifflin councilwoman dropped
By The Tribune-Review
Tuesday, December 16, 2008
Charges of harassment and terroristic threats were dismissed Tuesday against a woman accused of threatening West Mifflin Councilwoman Rhonda Popovich.
"If you should happen to go off the deep end and harass this lady, charges will be refiled," Senior District Judge Edward Burnett told Diane Stanesic of West Mifflin, who frequently attends council meetings. "Go out and behave yourself."
Burnett advised Stanesic to run for office if she is not happy with the job elected officials are doing. Stanesic had no comment following the proceeding.
Google News search pops up a slightly related story which just hit about an hour ago. Maybe this will give them an "excuse" out of their dilemma... of course they don't seem to see that they are in one. :?
TFred
Charges of threatening West Mifflin councilwoman dropped
By The Tribune-Review
Tuesday, December 16, 2008
Charges of harassment and terroristic threats were dismissed Tuesday against a woman accused of threatening West Mifflin Councilwoman Rhonda Popovich.
"If you should happen to go off the deep end and harass this lady, charges will be refiled," Senior District Judge Edward Burnett told Diane Stanesic of West Mifflin, who frequently attends council meetings. "Go out and behave yourself."
Burnett advised Stanesic to run for office if she is not happy with the job elected officials are doing. Stanesic had no comment following the proceeding.
Farmer Troy
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Newspaper update - Dec. 29th, 2008
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/s_604813.html
Gun group fights plan for metal detector By Craig Smith
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Monday, December 29, 2008
Gun advocates are considering a legal challenge to West Mifflin's plan to install a metal detector at the entrance to council's chambers.
"We're researching the legality of taking them to court ... and the novel concept of challenging the licenses of solicitors who give bad advice," said Kim Stolfer, chairman of the legislative committee of the Allegheny County Sportsmen's League.
The metal detector probably will not be installed until borough solicitor Michael Adams reviews the matter, borough Manager Howard Bednar said. Adams could not be reached for comment.
Council unanimously approved the proposal in November and had hoped to have the metal detector installed in January.
"We're not saying you can't carry guns. Don't bring them to council meetings," Bednar said.
West Mifflin's decision discriminates against gun owners, which is prohibited by state law, Stolfer said in a letter to borough officials.
"It makes no sense. The establishment of gun-free zones does nothing but tell criminals where people are unarmed," Stolfer told the Trib.
Commonwealth Court ruled Sept. 26 that only the state Legislature has the authority to pass laws governing the use or sale of guns. The matter has been appealed to the state Supreme Court.
In facilities with metal detectors, such as courthouses, confiscated weapons normally are placed in a secure area where owners can retrieve them later. The borough building has no such area, said Mayor John Andzelik, a former West Mifflin police chief.
Council members said the idea to install the detector was not a response to any particular threat or incident. Everyone attending meetings, including council members, will be required to walk through the device, which is expected to cost about $3,600.
Security cameras were installed in council's second-floor chambers several months ago.
Metal detectors have been installed at schools throughout the region and are used in courthouses and other government buildings. They have been used at borough council meetings in the southeast part of the state, according to the Pennsylvania State Association of Boroughs.
Craig Smith can be reached at csmith@tribweb.com or 412-380-5646.
Newspaper update - Dec. 29th, 2008
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/s_604813.html
Gun group fights plan for metal detector By Craig Smith
TRIBUNE-REVIEW
Monday, December 29, 2008
Gun advocates are considering a legal challenge to West Mifflin's plan to install a metal detector at the entrance to council's chambers.
"We're researching the legality of taking them to court ... and the novel concept of challenging the licenses of solicitors who give bad advice," said Kim Stolfer, chairman of the legislative committee of the Allegheny County Sportsmen's League.
The metal detector probably will not be installed until borough solicitor Michael Adams reviews the matter, borough Manager Howard Bednar said. Adams could not be reached for comment.
Council unanimously approved the proposal in November and had hoped to have the metal detector installed in January.
"We're not saying you can't carry guns. Don't bring them to council meetings," Bednar said.
West Mifflin's decision discriminates against gun owners, which is prohibited by state law, Stolfer said in a letter to borough officials.
"It makes no sense. The establishment of gun-free zones does nothing but tell criminals where people are unarmed," Stolfer told the Trib.
Commonwealth Court ruled Sept. 26 that only the state Legislature has the authority to pass laws governing the use or sale of guns. The matter has been appealed to the state Supreme Court.
In facilities with metal detectors, such as courthouses, confiscated weapons normally are placed in a secure area where owners can retrieve them later. The borough building has no such area, said Mayor John Andzelik, a former West Mifflin police chief.
Council members said the idea to install the detector was not a response to any particular threat or incident. Everyone attending meetings, including council members, will be required to walk through the device, which is expected to cost about $3,600.
Security cameras were installed in council's second-floor chambers several months ago.
Metal detectors have been installed at schools throughout the region and are used in courthouses and other government buildings. They have been used at borough council meetings in the southeast part of the state, according to the Pennsylvania State Association of Boroughs.
Craig Smith can be reached at csmith@tribweb.com or 412-380-5646.
Statkowski
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In other words, let's spend money to fix a problem that doesn't exist.
Aran
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I'm converting to Islam just to declare Jihad on this writer.
I'm converting to Islam just to declare Jihad on this writer.