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    Mexican gun problem blamed on US like DC gun problem blamed on Virginia.


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    18. GOA's Pratt: Mexican civil war spreading to U.S.
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    Civil War in Mexico Spreading to U.S.
    By Larry Pratt

    Mexican officials frequently lecture the U.S. about our supposedly
    loose gun laws that are blamed for spreading anarchy south of our
    borders. Mexican President Filipe Calderon has admitted that his
    country is experiencing a "gradual and growing disintegration of
    public and governmental institutions."
    Never having met an excuse for gun control that they did not like,
    officials in the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives
    (BATFE) have set up computer terminals in American consulate offices
    throughout Mexico. Somehow, violating the privacy of American gun
    owners is supposed to help control crime in a corrupt and chaotic
    Mexico. Yeah, right.

    But neither the Mexican lecturing nor the BATFE's sharing of data on
    American gun owners will make one whit of difference. The type of gun
    control that Mexico is clamoring for sounds quite familiar to American
    gun owners. We have heard politicians in U.S. jurisdictions with
    draconian gun control (Washington, DC, for example) try to shift the
    blame for their high violent crime rates to guns brought in from
    elsewhere.

    District of Columbia officials like to blame Virginia's "loose" gun
    laws for the District's crime woes. Unmentioned is the much lower
    (about 100 times lower) crime rate in neighboring Fairfax County with
    its population of nearly twice that of our nation's crime capital.

    Mexico, it turns out, has very similar gun laws to those in the
    District of Columbia (after the Supreme Court overturned their handgun
    ban). And the results are just as disastrous.

    The same kind of scheme is employed in both Washington, D.C. and in
    Mexico. The post-ban D.C. law allows handgun ownership as well as non-
    semi-automatic rifles and shotguns. Until recently, the handgun
    ownership that was allowed was a joke -- no semi-automatics. Just like
    Mexico.

    A licensing scheme is an additional major obstacle for gun ownership
    in D.C. In Mexico, ownership is subject to the police power (the same
    clinker that is in the Illinois constitution). On top of that, just
    try to get a license to legally own a gun. New York City may have
    given the Mexicans lessons on this. Licensing can easily produce the
    same result as an outright ban.

    Since the Mexican government has imposed their version of gun control
    even longer than has Washington, it is not surprising that crime is
    worse in Mexico. Much worse.

    Raging gun battles between rival drug gangs surge through the streets
    of Mexican cities and towns -- the thugs having no regard for innocent
    bystanders. The bystanders are helpless because by law, they have no
    guns (even at home). Alternately, cops and journalists are picked off
    when they don't do what they are told by the traffickers. Becoming a
    police chief who is not on the take is a very gutsy thing to do.

    The drug cartels are in effect conducting a civil war aimed at
    controlling the government for the enhancement of their "business."
    Mexican border towns from Nuevo Laredo to Tijuana are among the
    locales that have been scenes in this civil war. But it does not stop
    in Mexico. There have been U.S. border incursions by armed, organized
    cartel units sometimes disguised as Mexican soldiers.

    In June of this year, a Phoenix home was the scene of what is called
    in U.S. police jargon, a "dynamic entry." This is another way of
    saying "an armed attack." Black SUV's, men in black BDU's (battle
    dress uniforms), automatic rifles -- an increasingly familiar scene in
    the U.S. -- were employed in the attack. It seemed a little different,
    though, when one group of attackers began laying down covering fire
    while a second team invaded the home, killing a man inside (somewhat
    reminiscent of the BATFE attack on the Davidian's building in Waco).

    What was truly unique about the Phoenix no-knock entry was that the
    invaders were not U.S. cops. They were Mexican hit men taking care of
    business for a drug cartel -- well inside the U.S. border.

    In spite of the audacious faux-police attack in Phoenix, the president
    of one of Mexico's most influential newspaper chains (Grupo Reforma)
    has moved to Texas over concerns for his safety in Mexico. Alejandro
    Junco and his family have moved to Austin, Texas. At least in Texas,
    this refugee has the legal right to protect himself.

    Interesting that a crime refugee fled the Mexican gun control Mecca
    for the "Wild West" of the U.S.

    We cannot do much about Mexico's laws, although it is tempting to
    return the favor of their elites who lecture us about our gun laws.
    But we can do something about U.S. politicians who are openly anti-
    self defense, or who do nothing to remove our dangerous gun control
    laws that only benefit criminals (the same as they do in Mexico). We
    can expose them all.

    Larry Pratt is the Executive Director for Gun Owners of America, a
    national gun lobby with over 300,000 members. GOA is located at 8001
    Forbes Place, Springfield, VA 22151 and at http://www.gunowners.org

    He wore his gun outside his pants for all the honest world to see. Pancho & Lefty

    The millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us....There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! ...The war is inevitable–and let it come! I repeat it, Sir, let it come …………. PATRICK HENRY speech 1776

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    Build. the. fence. That should solve most of the problem for everyone.
    Bob Owens @ Bearing Arms (paraphrased): "These people aren't against violence; they're very much in favor of violence. They're against armed resistance."

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    Thundar wrote:
    Mexican gun problem blamed on US
    Hah. That's a laugh.

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    A fence isn't going to stop them unless it's armed with guns on turrents that have LIDAR and auto tracking. Los Zeta's sicarios (hit squads) are the ones doing these types of attacks. These guys are former spec ops soldiers in the Mexican army and police forces who've been recruited (join us or die - we pay better too) to carry out the hits. There was just a story run on the history channel about this and a article in the washingtonpost talking about these guys running all over the US and up north in our area. Not your run of the mill thugs, these guys are pros who identify, stalk, track, plan, and execute tactics (and people) like any military unit. They don't discriminate, they don't feel bad if they take out innocent bystanders to get their target. They kill everyone.

    Outside of drugs, it would be interesting to know if they are getting any funding from any outside sources from countries ending in stan....

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    The best "fence" that could ever be built, in a sense, is for the good Mexican people to be armed and ready to stand up to their government and look to overthrow it. All that is needed between them and us is an equalization. Rather than collect their problems it would be nice if we could give them some of our freedoms and economy (although now may not be the best example).

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    BATFE is sharing information about US gun owners with a foreign government. Yes this is evil. Yet another reason toBOOT the BATFE!
    He wore his gun outside his pants for all the honest world to see. Pancho & Lefty

    The millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us....There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! ...The war is inevitable–and let it come! I repeat it, Sir, let it come …………. PATRICK HENRY speech 1776

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    richarcm wrote:
    The best "fence" that could ever be built, in a sense, is for the good Mexican people to be armed and ready to stand up to their government and look to overthrow it.
    I bet if they did, either us or the UN would send in 'peacekeeping' forces to restore the original corrupt government. Kinda hard to fight back when 6 billion other people consider you their problem.

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