Orygunner
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I was OCing in Joe's today with my daughter, and was back in the firearms area looking at pocketknives & shotgun slings when one of the clerks came up to me:
"Excuse me sir, can you please remove the magazine from your firearm while in the store?"
That kindof took me by suprise, so I responded that this was my personal protection firearm, and that I would rather not.
He said they had just been robbed recently at gunpoint and some of the clerks were very nervous about guns, and if I could please just remove my magazine (not unload it, just remove the magazine)...
I should have asked if I could speak with a manager at that point, but I figured I would just go ahead and comply for the moment since I was almost finished, and I still had one in the chamber anyway (but I didn't tell him that). I just figured I wouldask for the manager at the front of the store on my way out.
So I got up to the front counter, and asked for the store manager. He came up, (I think his name was Dave?) and I told him what I had been asked to do by one of the clerks. He told me he had just been told that by the clerk, and hoped I hadn't been offended. He verified that not only had Joe's been robbed at gunpoint very recently, but that 4 other stores in the area had been robbed recently too. I told him I knew robberies were up, and that was exactly why I was carrying openly, because nobody's going to attack an armed man.
Just then a guy standing nearby piped upwith "You can't take his bullets! That's against the law! He has a right to self-defense!" I told the other guy "justa moment" and then finished talking with the Joe's manager.
The managerhas a CHL himself, he said, but they won't let employees carry. He wasn't sure of the exact policy regarding carrying, but that he was going to look it up just to make sure of what it was. He didn't think that removing the magazine was in the policy, but he does ask people handling their guns (checking holsters, etc) unload them.
I thanked the manager for discussing it with me, and turned around but the other guy was gone. I would've liked to have thanked him for trying to stand up for me, even though he may have been a little misguided.I would've liked to have chatted with him a bit.
Neat to have an OC experience that turned out to be pretty positive. I would've gone more places, but needed to try and get home so the wife could go out shopping.
Tomorrow I'm off all day because of the Winter weather, so I think I'll do some more OCing... Maybe into Gateway and Valley River Center malls
...Orygunner...
I was OCing in Joe's today with my daughter, and was back in the firearms area looking at pocketknives & shotgun slings when one of the clerks came up to me:
"Excuse me sir, can you please remove the magazine from your firearm while in the store?"
That kindof took me by suprise, so I responded that this was my personal protection firearm, and that I would rather not.
He said they had just been robbed recently at gunpoint and some of the clerks were very nervous about guns, and if I could please just remove my magazine (not unload it, just remove the magazine)...
I should have asked if I could speak with a manager at that point, but I figured I would just go ahead and comply for the moment since I was almost finished, and I still had one in the chamber anyway (but I didn't tell him that). I just figured I wouldask for the manager at the front of the store on my way out.
So I got up to the front counter, and asked for the store manager. He came up, (I think his name was Dave?) and I told him what I had been asked to do by one of the clerks. He told me he had just been told that by the clerk, and hoped I hadn't been offended. He verified that not only had Joe's been robbed at gunpoint very recently, but that 4 other stores in the area had been robbed recently too. I told him I knew robberies were up, and that was exactly why I was carrying openly, because nobody's going to attack an armed man.
Just then a guy standing nearby piped upwith "You can't take his bullets! That's against the law! He has a right to self-defense!" I told the other guy "justa moment" and then finished talking with the Joe's manager.
The managerhas a CHL himself, he said, but they won't let employees carry. He wasn't sure of the exact policy regarding carrying, but that he was going to look it up just to make sure of what it was. He didn't think that removing the magazine was in the policy, but he does ask people handling their guns (checking holsters, etc) unload them.
I thanked the manager for discussing it with me, and turned around but the other guy was gone. I would've liked to have thanked him for trying to stand up for me, even though he may have been a little misguided.I would've liked to have chatted with him a bit.
Neat to have an OC experience that turned out to be pretty positive. I would've gone more places, but needed to try and get home so the wife could go out shopping.
Tomorrow I'm off all day because of the Winter weather, so I think I'll do some more OCing... Maybe into Gateway and Valley River Center malls
...Orygunner...