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    CA OCDOers,

    Be sure you are also a member of Calguns.net and support the Calguns Foundation. There are great things in the works for the coming years.

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    (CALGUNS.NET) - CA. 12-11-2008.

    Calguns.net is pleased to announce the Calguns.net News Network. We will bring you Relevant, Timely, and Important matters related to RKBA in California and the rest of the US. In order to stay subscribed, please log-in to http://www.calguns.net/ and make sure 'Receive E-mail from Administrators" is checked in your options.

    2008 has been a wonderful year for the site, we have seen immense growth andstrengtheningof our community. We have a number of enhancements to Calguns.net and invite you to check them out.

    The Calguns Foundation - a nonprofit legal activism foundation similar to but distinct from NRA - founded by many of the principles and users on calguns.net, is tasked with legal defense and education on california guns laws. They have alreadysuccessfullydefended half a dozen wrongly accused individuals, and are set to make big changes in the way RKBA is protected. Check them out via links on http://www.calguns.net/ or: http://www.calgunsfoundation.org/ Donate today to help support your RKBA rights.

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    Calguns.net now has approximately 3 million hits a day, and is rapidly becoming the premier RKBA site in California. Stop in, and give us a look. Tell your friends. Become a calguns.net sponsor (link)

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    Just in case someone reading this is new to the forum, or has been living in a bunker since the cold war...

    Calguns Foundation is open carry friendly. They have backed wrongfully arrested OCers in the past, and with our support, maybe will continue to do so in the future. I encourage you to donate, and let them know you want them to continue to support open carry. Support them so they can support us!
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    Another CGF victory!!





    http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=139100




    The Calguns Foundation Announces Successful Defense
    of John Contos of Sacramento-Based Sonoma Firearms


    • Case based on the incorrect theory that U-15 Stocks are
      “thumbhole” stocks (and/or constitute a pistol grip) is dismissed.


    • Improper prosecution brought by California Department of Justice
      Bureau of Firearms as retribution and regulatory over-reach.
    December 18, 2008


    (CALGUNS.NET) - Redwood City, CA – The Calguns Foundation (CGF) announces that it has again successfully defended an innocent person charged with violating California’s complex and overbearing firearms laws. The Solano County District Attorney’s office dismissed all charges in an Assault Weapon-related case in People v. Contos. John Contos, the proprietor of Sonoma Firearms, was charged based upon the theory that the California Rifles’ brand “U-15” stock constituted a thumbhole stock (or was in fact a pistol grip) - and was thus a feature triggering Assault Weapon status under California law.


    Background: In June 2007, Mr. Contos was contacted by Supervisory Special Agent Ignatius Chinn of the California Department of Justice Bureau of Firearms in relation to sales of off-list lower receivers for California-legal rifles. According to California law, the serialized “lower receivers” of rifles or pistols that might be considered “Assault Weapons” – and which are not specified by make and model – cannot be considered “Assault Weapons” unless they are specifically listed in California “Assault Weapons” law by make and model. Receivers not listed by make and model are known as “off-list”, and are perfectly legal to sell and possess.

    However, even though these receivers are perfectly legal, it is still possible to create an illegal assault weapon by putting the wrong “accessories” on one of these receivers. One such accessory, which is prohibited, except under certain circumstances, is the “thumbhole stock.”

    At the Solano County Gun Show in July 2007, Agent Chinn observed that Mr. Contos was selling off-list lower receivers configured with U-15 “butt stocks.” Agent Chinn claimed such stocks were “thumbhole stocks” that could make these receivers into “Assault Weapons” by having certain feature configurations that are prohibited. As there is actually no “hole” in a U-15 stock, this position was at best specious. Later that summer, Agent Chinn obtained and served a warrant based on the “thumbhole stock” theory and seized numerous firearms - including handguns and various rifles having no relationship to this dispute.


    The Case: The Calguns Foundation retained the Law Offices of Don Kilmer to defend Mr. Contos. After passage of many months and no prosecution was forthcoming, Mr. Kilmer began the civil process of demanding the return of Mr. Contos’ property. After being stonewalled by the Bureau of Firearms, Mr. Kilmer filed a Tort Claims Act claim for the return of all property as well as compensation for business interruption. Just as the window for a response to the Tort Claims Act claim was to expire, the Bureau of Firearms persuaded a Solano County District Attorney to bring criminal charges (in June 2008), claiming that Mr. Contos was guilty of offering to sell illegal Assault Weapons.

    After reviewing the proposed testimony of the State’s expert (Agent Chinn) the Solano County DA had the courage to admit that he could not meet the burden of proving that a U-15-equipped rifle or receiver was an Assault Weapon. With the case’s dismissal, Mr. Contos looks forward to the prompt return of his property. The Foundation was prepared, if necessary, to secure expert testimony from topologists (mathematicians specializing in the fields of surfaces and shapes) relating to the design of the U-15 stock and its not possessing a “thumbhole”.

    The Calguns Foundation remains concerned the Bureau of Firearms has shown a pattern of using the criminal courts to extract retribution against adversaries and quash dissent about their overbroad view of the law. Bureau of Firearms has - on multiple occasions - instigated criminal charges as it became clear that they would be required to return property by civil action. Additionally, the Bureau of Firearms continues to attempt to use the criminal courts to expand the regulatory reach of the Assault Weapon laws. This is contrary to California law. This pattern and practice of charging citizens with a crimes for the purpose of exploring the regulatory boundaries of a fundamental right are extremely troubling and may require redress.

    CGF offers its congratulations and thanks to John Contos for his support and patience during this arduous process. Mr. Contos has been a strong personal supporter of the Calguns community, even as this process has exacted real costs to him. Thanks also to The Law Offices of Don Kilmer for their excellent work on this case to date.

    Also, CGF offers its congratulations to Grant Early, inventor of the California Rifles U-15 stock, upon having it clearly deemed to be neither a thumbhole stock nor a pistol grip.

    Please consider a donation to offset the legal fees and other costs that The Calguns Foundation bore in this case - and which it continues to bear in order to defend other cases. Your donations are likely to be tax deductible, as The Calguns Foundation expects to be obtaining 501(c)(3) tax-deductible status. You can donate (at http://calgunsfoundation.org/main/index.php/donate) via check, credit card, homebanking payments, and Paypal.

    The Calguns Foundation expects to see this case through to a final and satisfactory conclusion for both Mr. Contos and the California sport shooting community.


    Gene Hoffman, Jr.
    Chairman, The Calguns Foundation




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    Let me add that DOJ Agent Chinn is no longer with the DOJ.

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    LeagueOf1607 wrote:
    Let me add that DOJ Agent Chinn is no longer with the DOJ.
    I think they have his head mounted on the wall at Trutanich-Michel. They're going to need a dedicated trophy room in the coming year.
    :celebrate

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