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    http://www.2asisters.org/HR1022.htm

    There's a newer one that I didn't know about until someone posted it further down the thread.



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    That isn't new...it's from almost 2 years ago.

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    Yup not new. You can bet the one they do introduce will be worse than that.


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    Edited cause that didnt sound right...

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    MetalChris wrote:
    That isn't new...it's from almost 2 years ago.

    :P
    ^This.

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    MetalChris wrote:
    That isn't new...it's from almost 2 years ago.

    :P
    Yup.
    "He's not going to be able to do all that stuff" Typical gun owner I encountered while trying to get them to support Ron Paul.

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    MetalChris wrote:
    That isn't new...it's from almost 2 years ago.

    :P
    Yes, but this is what they are going for. It is still in commitee and can still be brought to the floor for a vote.
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    I read the list of "prohibited firearms", but I didn't see this one.

    [img]file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/Doug/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot-7.jpg[/img]But it's only a bolt-action!
    A law-abiding citizen should be able to carry his personal protection firearm anywhere that an armed criminal might go.

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    MetalChris wrote:
    That isn't new...it's from almost 2 years ago.

    :P
    Like this one better?

    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:H.R.6257:

    Also sitting in committee.

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    thorvaldr wrote:
    MetalChris wrote:
    That isn't new...it's from almost 2 years ago.

    :P
    Like this one better?

    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:H.R.6257:

    Also sitting in committee.
    Not really.
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    Appendix 'A' is a list of exempt weapons, if it's any consolation.

    • `(3) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to--


      • `(A) any of the firearms, or replicas or duplicates of the firearms, specified in appendix A to this section, as such firearms were manufactured on October 1, 1993;

    -ljp

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    Legba wrote:
    Appendix 'A' is a list of exempt weapons, if it's any consolation.

    • `(3) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to--

      • `(A) any of the firearms, or replicas or duplicates of the firearms, specified in appendix A to this section, as such firearms were manufactured on October 1, 1993;
    -ljp
    Yes, I figured that one out.
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    Legba wrote:
    Appendix 'A' is a list of exempt weapons, if it's any consolation.
    • `(3) Paragraph (1) shall not apply to--
      • `(A) any of the firearms, or replicas or duplicates of the firearms, specified in appendix A to this section, as such firearms were manufactured on October 1, 1993;
    -ljp
    It's not a consolation. Why is this law so stupid? Yeah, I know anti-gunners write stupid laws. But really?

    A mini 14 is OK, an SKS is OK if it doesn't have evil features, but an AR is specifically banned. WTF

    And why do they need a list of bolt action rifles that are OK at the end of a semi auto ban. How stupid are these people?

    And am I reading it wrong or does the ban on magazines bigger than 10 rounds not say they are only banning rifle magazines?

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    Wow,



    Isure am glad I am part of the Virginia Militia. This stupid ban can't apply to me!!:celebrate

    Paragraph (1) shall not apply to--


      • `(A) the manufacture for, transfer to, or possession by the United States or a department or agency of the United States (including the United States Armed Forces and, under regulations pursuant to title 50, United States Code, the National Guard and Reserve), or a State or a department, agency, or political subdivision of a State, or a transfer to or possession by a law enforcement officer employed by such an entity for purposes of law enforcement (whether on or off duty);


    He wore his gun outside his pants for all the honest world to see. Pancho & Lefty

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    So, what should I be doing now to stop this nonsense from being enacted?

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    I hope we can just wait for rep. McCarthy to exhaust herself talking nonsense. At least there's no danger of this getting out of committee in the current session.

    -ljp

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    Legba wrote:
    I hope we can just wait for rep. McCarthy to exhaust herself talking nonsense. At least there's no danger of this getting out of committee in the current session.

    -ljp
    I don't think Rep. McCarthy could ever get tired of talking nonsense. But yes, this will definitely sit safely in committee until Jan 20th at least.

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    So, what should I be doing now to stop this nonsense from being enacted?
    Stop voting for the same old same old. Get involved with your local Libertarian Party.
    Here in VA Beach the GOP has a breakfast nearly every Saturday morning, and they usually have a speaker from the state or local level and they take questions. I have been to a few and have yet to see any other OCers there. Last weeks the State rep there had voted against resuarant carry. Sure would have been nice to see some fellow gun owners/OCers show up in numbers and grilling him.

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    Ok, enough is enough. April Fool's Day isn't for a few months. Right now we know this won't happen, the almighty has told us that himself!

    Why, if you read into it closely enough it could mean a ban on just about every firearm out there. I know I certainly saw quite a few non-black ones on the list when I thought about it.

    Think I need to hide my Daisy Red Ryder BB Gun before it makes the list as a suppressed repeating assault rifle? I know I will melt my slingshot down before I get into too much trouble.

    I know I am talking stupid, I'm just getting into the spirit of the language of the proposed ban.
    I aim to misbehave

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    thorvaldr wrote:
    MetalChris wrote:
    That isn't new...it's from almost 2 years ago.

    :P
    Like this one better?

    http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c110:H.R.6257:

    Also sitting in committee.
    You have got to be F**KING kidding me...
    I aim to misbehave

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    Isn't this the bill Bush said he would sign if it got to his desk?

    How about posting a new bill, instead of just trying to stir up the forum.

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    How new do you want it to be? It's waiting onObama to get it signed. He doesn't want to be left out.



    H.R.6257

    Assault Weapons Ban Reauthorization Act of 2008 (Introduced in House)
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    GLENGLOCKER wrote:
    cccook wrote:
    So, what should I be doing now to stop this nonsense from being enacted?
    Stop voting for the same old same old. Get involved with your local Libertarian Party.
    +1 The GOP just isn't pro-gun. Anybody who votes solely based on run rights should vote libertarian, because the LP is the only pro-gun political party (aside from the dreadful anti-Constitution Party).

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    Relax. They can't pass ANY Assault Weapons Ban, not on the federal level. Miller v US set the precedent that weapons useful "to contribute tothe common defense" and that "has some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia" cannot be banned. DC v Heller upheld and solidified the prohibition against banning an entire class of weapons that can be shown to be "in common use". In Lewis v US, the Supreme Court stated that "the Second Amendment guarantees no right to keep and bear a firearm that does not have 'some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia'" (which, to a degree, Heller reversed); in doing so it upheld that weapons that DO havesome reasonable relationship to the preservation orefficiency of a well regulated militia are clearly protected, as consistently affirmed in Miller and Heller. All enemies, foreign and domestic, use assault weapons. Semiautomatic battle rifles such as the AR-15, AK-47, certain H&K models, to name a few; are clearly and unarguably in the interest of the efficiency of a well regulated militia, and worldwide distribution illustrates "in common use". Slick Willie's gun ban would've gone down like a sack of potatoes if anyone with a double digit IQ or better would have challenged it. They'll keep pumping out new AWB bills every year, but none can be passed because they're unconstitutional, and even if the Supreme Court becomes liberally slanted, they can't go against precedent, especially precedent affirmed throughout several cases. Don't sweat the small stuff.

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    But they do it anyways.
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    Can't? The only word I know that sounds anything like CAN'T is the CANT when I parked my tank on a side slope and fired. They put a Cant compensator in the M1 Series tank so you didn't have to aim off to adjust.
    NEVER say a politician can't do something, because they will prove you wrong.
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