Off-Duty Cop Fends Off Would-Be Robbers

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nitrovic wrote:

:lol:, wow, it's nice to see another person here who is/was an actual COP!!!

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Nah, I wasn't an "actual cop". I was one of those "court room Sheriff's", to use your terminology......not a real street cop.

We just happened to be taught those same law enforcement skillsthat you real street cops were taught. Ya know, in case we might have to enforce a law or 2 in a court room, since you know, the Sheriff is the CLEO and his Deputies have greater authority statewide than police officers, and all that good stuff....

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ProShooter wrote:

Decoligny wrote:

Exactly what "stance" do you take when you are grappling with two thugs trying to get control of a gun from one of them?

"Stance" is for when you have your own firearm and the time and opportunity to actually take a stance.

If you are in a gun fight and take a "stance" you are not moving quickly enough and you are not using adequate cover,you are making yourself a target.

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The same stance that you should use every day. Its called an interview stance. Its not a position that you take - its a position that you maintain.....

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The interview stance is supposed to help prevent someone from successfully attacking you. If it fails, and you are actually in a grapple, then there is no more "interview stance", there is only the attempt to win the grappleand the fighting for control of the weapon. If you are successful in taking control of the weapon, you can then take a stance again. But if the thug has his hands on the gun and you have yours on the gun, it could easily go bang in any direction.

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Decoligny wrote:

The interview stance is supposed to help prevent someone from successfully attacking you. If it fails, and you are actually in a grapple, then there is no more "interview stance", there is only the attempt to win the grappleand the fighting for control of the weapon.

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If you use the interview stance correctly, there is nofailure. If you are in a grapple, you didnt do the interview stance correctly.

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ProShooter wrote:

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If you use the interview stance correctly, there is nofailure. If you are in a grapple, you didnt do the interview stance correctly.

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Normally I would agree, but in this instance the Officer was attempting to arm himself with a weapon that was already in control of the bad guy. This is not an anticipated event under normal circumstances the Officer would be trying to defend his retention of his own weapon.

It is very clear to me why he might have to break normal routine under these circumstances.

Regards

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Hawkflyer wrote:

ProShooter wrote:

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If you use the interview stance correctly, there is nofailure. If you are in a grapple, you didnt do the interview stance correctly.

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Normally I would agree, but in this instance the Officer was attempting to arm himself with a weapon that was already in control of the bad guy. This is not an anticipated event under normal circumstances the Officer would be trying to defend his retention of his own weapon.

It is very clear to me why he might have to break normal routine under these circumstances.

Regards

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A freakin' gutsy move on his part no matter. The BGs look pretty young and fairly inexperienced looking. Perhaps that and their body language let the cop know he could have a go at it and succeed.