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    Here is the link to the changes in handgun registration. http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(1ky...d&query=on

    A question came up at our coffee get-together on the 21st. Someone stated he thought that the loaning of a legal handgun to a CPL holderwill change...that is, will no longerbe allowed after January. I had not heard of this happening and don't think it will. Does anyone have any information in this regard?




    edit; should be January 2009, sorry.
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    I had already read over the amended section when I saw your post, Venator. One section which grabbed my attention was in section (6):

    The licensee may carry, use, possess, and transport the pistol for 30 days beginning on the date of purchase or acquisition only while he or she is in possession of his or her copy of the license.

    I think thissection coversthe possibility of the pistol not being entered into the MSP database during this time. My thought is that - although the text only refers to licensee carry - a CPL holder who borrows such a pistol should probably have the license copy while borrowing it. This might be treading on thin ice though.

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    Like I said yesterday, several times, over and over. I wasn't sure what the change was. I never said it wouln't be allowed after Jan 7th. Words mean things:P

    Hcidem, that was it!

    According to that little tidbit, it would seem that you shouldn't borrow a gun from someone during the first 30 days.

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    dougwg wrote:
    Like I said yesterday, several times, over and over. I wasn't sure what the change was. I never said it wouln't be allowed after Jan 7th. Words mean things:P

    Hcidem, that was it!

    According to that little tidbit, it would seem that you shouldn't borrow a gun from someone during the first 30 days.
    I didn't mention any names and I forgot that you commented on that, I was referring to another gentleman, but thanks for reminding me.
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    to another gentleman
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    dougwg wrote:
    to another gentleman
    Are you infering that I'm a gentleman? Boy you got some nerve.

    Most refer to me as the (ock!
    Yes. You have not shown me otherwise.
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    I'll get you for that, and your little dog too.

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    I did a little deeper looking. Here are the details.


    FIREARMS (EXCERPT)
    Act 372 of 1927 ***** 28.422.amended THIS AMENDED SECTION IS EFFECTIVE JANUARY 7, 2009 *****


    28.422.amended License to purchase, carry, possess, or transport pistol; issuance; qualifications; applications; sale of pistol; exemptions; basic pistol safety brochure; forging application; implementation during business hours.
    Sec. 2.

    (1) Except as provided in subsection (2), a person shall not purchase, carry, possess, or transport a pistol in this state without first having obtained a license for the pistol as prescribed in this section.
    (2) A person who brings a pistol into this state who is on leave from active duty with the armed forces of the United States or who has been discharged from active duty with the armed forces of the United States shall obtain a license for the pistol within 30 days after his or her arrival in this state. 'SNIP



    FIREARMS (EXCERPT)
    Act 372 of 1927 ***** 28.432.amended THIS AMENDED SECTION IS EFFECTIVE JANUARY 7, 2009 *****


    28.432.amended Inapplicability of MCL 28.422; citation as “Janet Kukuk act”.
    Sec. 12.
    (1) Section 2 does not apply to any of the following:
    (a) A police or correctional agency of the United States or of this state or any subdivision of this state.
    (b) The United States army, air force, navy, or marine corps.
    (c) An organization authorized by law to purchase or receive weapons from the United States or from this state.
    (d) The national guard, armed forces reserves, or other duly authorized military organization.
    (e) A member of an entity or organization described in subdivisions (a) through (d) for a pistol while engaged in the course of his or her duties with that entity or while going to or returning from those duties.
    (f) A United States citizen holding a license to carry a pistol concealed upon his or her person issued by another state. 'SNIP





    The bold clearly states that a CPL holder is still able to borrow and carry a Michigan registered handgun.


    Read the entire act at

    http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(au2vdj55l1erlxvezdc3pgjj))/mileg.aspx?page=getObject&objectName=mcl-Act-372-of-1927

    Several sections of this act are being amended, but it looks like the only thing it does is change the registration method.

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    Don't worry Venator: He wears glasses and can't shoot worth a whiff! :P

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    FIREARMS (EXCERPT)
    Act 372 of 1927 ***** 28.432.amended THIS AMENDED SECTION IS EFFECTIVE JANUARY 7, 2009 *****


    28.432.amended Inapplicability of MCL 28.422; citation as “Janet Kukuk act”.
    Sec. 12.
    (1) Section 2 does not apply to any of the following:
    (a) A police or correctional agency of the United States or of this state or any subdivision of this state.
    (b) The United States army, air force, navy, or marine corps.
    (c) An organization authorized by law to purchase or receive weapons from the United States or from this state.
    (d) The national guard, armed forces reserves, or other duly authorized military organization.
    (e) A member of an entity or organization described in subdivisions (a) through (d) for a pistol while engaged in the course of his or her duties with that entity or while going to or returning from those duties.
    (f) A United States citizen holding a license to carry a pistol concealed upon his or her person issued by another state. 'SNIP


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    LaVere wrote:
    FIREARMS (EXCERPT)
    Act 372 of 1927 ***** 28.432.amended THIS AMENDED SECTION IS EFFECTIVE JANUARY 7, 2009 *****


    28.432.amended Inapplicability of MCL 28.422; citation as “Janet Kukuk act”.
    Sec. 12.
    (1) Section 2 does not apply to any of the following:
    (a) A police or correctional agency of the United States or of this state or any subdivision of this state.
    (b) The United States army, air force, navy, or marine corps.
    (c) An organization authorized by law to purchase or receive weapons from the United States or from this state.
    (d) The national guard, armed forces reserves, or other duly authorized military organization.
    (e) A member of an entity or organization described in subdivisions (a) through (d) for a pistol while engaged in the course of his or her duties with that entity or while going to or returning from those duties.
    (f) A United States citizen holding a license to carry a pistol concealed upon his or her person issued by another state. 'SNIP


    Did they forget the Coast Guard? see line B
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