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Plaxico Burress' home seized and searched by government agents
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T Dubya
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T Dubya wrote:
This is an example of why the media is total garbage. When they use "cache of weapons and ammunition" they are implying something sinister.
"Weapons are registered", What?!! When did registration become the law of the land?
T Dubya wrote:
This is an example of why the media is total garbage. When they use "cache of weapons and ammunition" they are implying something sinister.
"Weapons are registered", What?!! When did registration become the law of the land?
Tomahawk
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Wow. So getting busted for illegal carry in New York makes it okay for police in another state to raid your house.
Wow. So getting busted for illegal carry in New York makes it okay for police in another state to raid your house.
marshaul
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Instead of bending over for this, Burress should make NY and NJ pay by challenging and invalidating their unconstitutional gun laws. That would be righteous.
Instead of bending over for this, Burress should make NY and NJ pay by challenging and invalidating their unconstitutional gun laws. That would be righteous.
TheMrMitch
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I agree with Marshul.....BUT.....methinks that boy is a goner. They want him.:uhoh:
I agree with Marshul.....BUT.....methinks that boy is a goner. They want him.:uhoh:
Tomahawk
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TheMrMitch wrote:
Well, they, NY, NJ, and Bloomberg, want to make an example of him. The NFL, the Giants, and even the fans have all turned their backs on him.
This is why you don't illegally carry, especially in NYC. You're in the Matrix in places like that. The people around you will narc you out like zombies.
TheMrMitch wrote:
Well, they, NY, NJ, and Bloomberg, want to make an example of him. The NFL, the Giants, and even the fans have all turned their backs on him.
This is why you don't illegally carry, especially in NYC. You're in the Matrix in places like that. The people around you will narc you out like zombies.
T Dubya
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Tomahawk wrote:
+1
If people aren't outraged by this they aren't paying attention. His house gets raided? Who was the judge that signed off on the warrant? How did this jump state lines? Is this a Federal case now? How is it a federal case? Looks like a "cache" of government tyranny and media hype.
Tomahawk wrote:
+1
If people aren't outraged by this they aren't paying attention. His house gets raided? Who was the judge that signed off on the warrant? How did this jump state lines? Is this a Federal case now? How is it a federal case? Looks like a "cache" of government tyranny and media hype.
Hawkflyer
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T Dubya wrote:
It would not be too much of a stretch for a Judge in one state to accept an arrest for illegal carry in another state as probable cause the person might have illegal firearms in his home. It is NO stretch for me to believe police in NJ would think to present such an application. I don't agree with it for about 20 or 25 reasons, but hey we are talking about NY and NJ.
Regards
T Dubya wrote:
It would not be too much of a stretch for a Judge in one state to accept an arrest for illegal carry in another state as probable cause the person might have illegal firearms in his home. It is NO stretch for me to believe police in NJ would think to present such an application. I don't agree with it for about 20 or 25 reasons, but hey we are talking about NY and NJ.
Regards
Thundar
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So bearing arms is a felony in N.Y. and simply keeping arms is a felony in New Jersey. This stuff just screams for 2A incorporation under the 14th A.
This stuff really sets my blood boiling. Maybe we need topenalize those states that do not respect theRKBA. We already penalize states that do not set their drinking age at 21. If their age is lower they lose some of their highway funds.
States that violate RKBA should likewise loose some of their homeland defence funding.
So bearing arms is a felony in N.Y. and simply keeping arms is a felony in New Jersey. This stuff just screams for 2A incorporation under the 14th A.
This stuff really sets my blood boiling. Maybe we need topenalize those states that do not respect theRKBA. We already penalize states that do not set their drinking age at 21. If their age is lower they lose some of their highway funds.
States that violate RKBA should likewise loose some of their homeland defence funding.
marshaul
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Thundar wrote:
I'll say it again: Burress is being "made an example of" by a conspiracy of criminal thugs, in clear violation of his Constitutional rights. He should challenge and invalidate all of the NY and NJ laws being used against him. If he doesn't do so, he's either ignorant or a masochist.
Thundar wrote:
We're going to get that from Nordyke very soon, possibly within the month. Burress won't have to do it for us, he'll already have incorporation to use for his own benefit.
I'll say it again: Burress is being "made an example of" by a conspiracy of criminal thugs, in clear violation of his Constitutional rights. He should challenge and invalidate all of the NY and NJ laws being used against him. If he doesn't do so, he's either ignorant or a masochist.
MetalChris
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marshaul wrote:
I hope he gets hung out to dry.
marshaul wrote:
I doubt the kind of *cough* person *cough* that would Mexican carry a pistol into a nightclub isn't the type of person who knows or cares about any laws.
I hope he gets hung out to dry.
marshaul
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MetalChris wrote:
Or do you think ignorance and/or stupidity should be punishable offenses?
MetalChris wrote:
And what possible justification could there be for this outcome?
Or do you think ignorance and/or stupidity should be punishable offenses?
Doug Huffman
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Or that carry in a bar is somehow wrong? Or, worse, that not carrying in an expensive holster product with many marketeering attributes is wrong?
I carried Mexican-style with no complications for some years. Two personal anecdotes to not data make, neither do opinions.
SC gun rights activists are trying to legalize carry in 'bars'.
Or that carry in a bar is somehow wrong? Or, worse, that not carrying in an expensive holster product with many marketeering attributes is wrong?
I carried Mexican-style with no complications for some years. Two personal anecdotes to not data make, neither do opinions.
SC gun rights activists are trying to legalize carry in 'bars'.
MetalChris
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Doug Huffman wrote:
Doug Huffman wrote:
MetalChris wrote:
Gray Peterson
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One thing Plaxico Burress has is a LOT of money. Let's review a few things.
1) There is no requirement to register guns when you move into New Jersey.
2) Burress has a lot of money. The only way he's going to be able to beat this situation is to get the entire search tossed, and the charges dismissed. As a NJ resident, he CANNOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES get a NY carry license, which means that he has a colorable argument to use the 2nd amendment. If I were him, I'd be calling up Alan Gura right this second.
One thing Plaxico Burress has is a LOT of money. Let's review a few things.
1) There is no requirement to register guns when you move into New Jersey.
2) Burress has a lot of money. The only way he's going to be able to beat this situation is to get the entire search tossed, and the charges dismissed. As a NJ resident, he CANNOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES get a NY carry license, which means that he has a colorable argument to use the 2nd amendment. If I were him, I'd be calling up Alan Gura right this second.
marshaul
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Last I checked no states require the use of a holster. Are we to start hunting for charges to press against any person who doesn't use one?
Last I checked no states require the use of a holster. Are we to start hunting for charges to press against any person who doesn't use one?
MetalChris
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Lonnie Wilson wrote:
Lonnie Wilson wrote:
If you were him, I highly doubt you'd know who the hell Alan Gura is. :lol:
Hawkflyer
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I think under normal circumstances this guy would not care about his 2A rights. So I would not have counted on him to show up at a lobby event.
However, things change. At this juncture, one of his strongest defenses on the gun charges, especially those related to keeping arms in his home, is to fight based on a 2A claim coupled with Heller. So he may HAVE to become a 2A activist. But Sullivan still weighs heavy on New Yorkers, and he was carrying. His only hope is a federal challenge through the appellate process.
Regards
I think under normal circumstances this guy would not care about his 2A rights. So I would not have counted on him to show up at a lobby event.
However, things change. At this juncture, one of his strongest defenses on the gun charges, especially those related to keeping arms in his home, is to fight based on a 2A claim coupled with Heller. So he may HAVE to become a 2A activist. But Sullivan still weighs heavy on New Yorkers, and he was carrying. His only hope is a federal challenge through the appellate process.
Regards
MetalChris
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Marshaul wrote:
I never said that he should be charged with carrying without a holster (and yes in the state of Ohio you are required to carry in a holster.) All I said was an ignorant moronic fool that Mexican carries into a crowded nightclub more than likely doesn't give a flying f*ck about the law.
Marshaul wrote:
I never said that he should be charged with carrying without a holster (and yes in the state of Ohio you are required to carry in a holster.) All I said was an ignorant moronic fool that Mexican carries into a crowded nightclub more than likely doesn't give a flying f*ck about the law.