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AlinPA (1000+ posts) Tue Dec-16-08 08:10 PM
Response to Reply #5
55. I still don't see why people can't just wear their guns out in the open.
Since they have a permit to own a gun, why should they have to hide it?
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Statistical (351 posts) Sun Dec-21-08 05:45 PM
Response to Reply #55
64. You don't. Depends on how free your state is.
In VA you can "open carry" a firearm with no license or permit required.
No license, permit, or waiting period is required for purchase either (only federally mandated instant background check).
If you want to conceal the weapon you actually need a CHP "Concealed Handgun Permit".
Due to some "weirdness" in the laws that the gov refused to correct you currently:
Can NOT legally carry a weapon CONCEALED (even with a CHP) into any establishment that sells alcohol.
You CAN legally carry a weapon OPENLY (with NO permit) into any establishment that sells achohol.
So once a month I participate in a open carry dinner where about 40 of us openly carry into a local restaurant.
We have fliers to explain the reason we legally can't conceal carry (even with a CHP) if anyone has a question.
Of course private property owners are free to restrict firearms on their property.
VA has no legal def of a "club" or "bar" only an establishment that serves alchohol so the restriction also covers any restaurant with ABC license (virtually ever sit down restuarant).
Actually for a long time in this country OPEN carry was legal. Most locations had laws making CONCEALING a weapon a crime.
The thinking was if you are doing nothing wrong why would you want to hide your weapon?
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Sun Dec-21-08 08:21 PM
Response to Reply #64
65. who "we", friend?
So once a month I participate in a open carry dinner where about 40 of us openly carry into a local restaurant.
We have fliers to explain the reason we legally can't conceal carry (even with a CHP) if anyone has a question.
Not, perhaps, the charming "Virginia Citizens Defense League"?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A50416-20...
Yours are unloaded, I trust:
Virginia law 18.2-287.4 expressly prohibits "carrying loaded firearms in public areas."
But then ... how would anyone know? given as how it's police harassment for them to inquire ...
http://www.vcdl.org/localities/culpeper.html
Pretty funny. That Mike, he's a real progressive's progressive, he is.
http://www.FairfaxCountyPrivacyCouncil.org
Check out the links.
If you've never seen a lunatiac right-wing ******* up close before, that should do the trick.
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X_Digger (53 posts) Sun Dec-21-08 09:09 PM
Response to Reply #65
66. Bzzt, wrong..
Edited on Sun Dec-21-08 09:10 PM by X_Digger
Most handguns are legal for open carry, as are most shotguns and hunting rifles. You'll also notice that this restriction is only in certain areas.
18.2-287.4. Carrying loaded firearms in public areas prohibited; penalty.
It shall be unlawful for any person to carry a loaded (a) semi-automatic center-fire rifle or pistol that expels single or multiple projectiles by action of an explosion of a combustible material and is equipped at the time of the offense with a magazine that will hold more than 20 rounds of ammunition or designed by the manufacturer to accommodate a silencer or equipped with a folding stock or (b) shotgun with a magazine that will hold more than seven rounds of the longest ammunition for which it is chambered on or about his person on any public street, road, alley, sidewalk, public right-of-way, or in any public park or any other place of whatever nature that is open to the public in the Cities of Alexandria, Chesapeake, Fairfax, Falls Church, Newport News, Norfolk, Richmond, or Virginia Beach or in the Counties of Arlington, Fairfax, Henrico, Loudoun, or Prince William.
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Sun Dec-21-08 10:12 PM
Response to Reply #66
67. I guess if I had cared enough
I would have bothered to look it up.
I'll just have to wait for answers for the rest, I guess.
Or just review a little history.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Yes, fine fellows all, those militant open-carry a******s in Virginia are.