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    Last night I was watching a TV show about the history or Bar-B-Que and they were discussing talking about the popularity of it and how teh Founding Fathers enjoyed it. They were discussing how it involved into such a social event and that it was common for the celebrations to include strong drink and rowdyness. In the discussions they talked about George Washington often threw such parties and things would get out of hand. The kicker was that in the early 1800's Virginia passed a law banning guns from Bar-B-Ques.

    This is the earliest gun ban that I have heard of and goes against what everyone always says about our Founding Fathers. I haven't been able to find anything on this so does anyone have any information on this law? Maybe our Founding Fathers weren't so pro-gun as we thought.

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    If this is true, it is probably still on the books. (LMAO!) We in Virginia still have the most ridiculous, antiquated laws in the criminal codes. For example, it is against the law to kiss your wife in public on Sunday. It is against the law to sell toilet paper on Sunday. Oral sex is a felony. A police officer can kill you to prevent you from killing yourself...and the list goes on.

    No, I cannot cite the codes as these laws are no longer enforced, but they are still on the books somewhere. Maybe someone with time and strong Google-fu can find these and some others that are laughable and post the specific codes? It could be fun and funny!
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    Don't forget that it is illegal to have the lights on or use anything other than missionary. Virginia needs to go back through the laws and get rid of these outdated laws so that no one can pull them up in court:shock:

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    ODA 226 wrote:
    If this is true, it is probably still on the books. (LMAO!) We in Virginia still have the most ridiculous, antiquated laws in the criminal codes.
    Until this year serving Sangria was illegal. The spanish tapas place in King Street (La Tasca) was actually cited for it, as well as a few other restaurants in Virginia in the past few years. The law was changed, so now sangria is legal. Boilermakers and a variety of other drinks that mix beer and liquor are still illegal to serve. Instead of changing the law to remove these crazy alcohol restrictions, they just added an exemption by name for sangria.

    http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp...00+cod+4.1-324

    " Sell wine to which spirits or alcohol, or both, have been added, otherwise than as required in the manufacture thereof under Board regulations, except that a mixed beverage licensee may (i) make sangria that contains brandy, triple sec, or other similar spirits and (ii) combine beer or spirits, or both, with wine pursuant to a patron's order;"


    I couldn't find anything about bbqs and firearms, perhaps it was a local ordinance that is now preempted...

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    What would we do with all of those beautiful BBQ guns?

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    No more Cookouts for VCDL?:shock:
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    mobeewan wrote:
    No more Cookouts for VCDL?:shock:
    The BBQ's they had then were 3-5 day events, and real BBQ. A cookout is to BBQ , is what baking is to boiling. I think the VCDL cookout is safe.

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    Hey, Fairfax sent a helicopter and several carloads of their finest to one of ours a while back and everyone went home happy!

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    I never realized what a damnable felon I was until after reading ODA226's and CRFrider's posts. I should be ashamed of myself.

    Technically, I should be debarred the use of guns. :what:

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    I broke those bedroom laws multiple times last night:what::celebrateLuckily there wasn't a LEO in the room or I could have lost my gun rights

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    No such law. There were laws during the 17th century that made it made it illegal to discharge firearms in celebration except for weddings and funerals. The intent was to save powder and ball, and to not alarm the other inhabitants that the gun fire was a signal of an Indian attack. The History Channel made that up.


    ""That no commander of any plantation do either by himselfe or suffer others to spend powder and ammunition unnecessarily in drinking or enterntainments, &c." 1623.

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    " Be it therefore enacted that what person or persons soever shall, after publication hereof, shoot any gunns at drinking (marriages and ffunerals onely excepted.) that such person or persons so offending shall forfeit 100 lb. of tobacco to be levied by distresse in case of refusall and to be disposed of by the militia in ammunition towards a magazine for the county where the offence shall be committed." 1655.




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    mkl wrote:
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    I couldn't find anything about bbqs and firearms, perhaps it was a local ordinance that is now preempted...
    This is a job for either Citizen or Nakedshoplifter.

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    Hawkflyer wrote:
    mkl wrote:
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    I couldn't find anything about bbqs and firearms, perhaps it was a local ordinance that is now preempted...
    This is a job for either Citizen or Nakedshoplifter.

    Hawkflyer
    Oh, now you've started it.

    Since Nakedshoplifter is going to say it anyway, I might as well beat him to it and say it for him:

    Obviously the 1623 and 1655 ordinances against spending ball and powder while drinking were aimedat my ancestors.


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    So if this is illegal you can no longer defend your chow from scavengers:

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    Citizen wrote:
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    Obviously the 1623 and 1655 ordinances against spending ball and powder while drinking we aimed my ancestors.

    Well there is the single malt thing...
    "Research has shown that a 230 grain lead pellet placed just behind the ear at 850 FPS results in a permanent cure for violent criminal behavior."
    "If you are not getting Flak, you are not over the target"
    "186,000 Miles per second! ... Not just a good idea ... It's the law!"

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    Citizen wrote:
    Oh, now you've started it.

    Since Nakedshoplifter is going to say it anyway, I might as well beat him to it and say it for him:

    Obviously the 1623 and 1655 ordinances against spending ball and powder while drinking we aimed my ancestors.

    Have we too been drinking tonight :^)?

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    CRF250rider1000 wrote:
    I broke those bedroom laws multiple times last night:what::celebrateLuckily there wasn't a LEO in the room or I could have lost my gun rights
    Alex, you should give your hand a rest - you may need it for self DEFENSE :shock:

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    Bubba Ron wrote:
    CRF250rider1000 wrote:
    I broke those bedroom laws multiple times last night:what::celebrateLuckily there wasn't a LEO in the room or I could have lost my gun rights
    Alex, you should give your hand a rest - you may need it for self DEFENSE :shock:
    Bahhaha that must be why they make ambi safties for 1911s :P

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    Neplusultra wrote:
    Citizen wrote:
    Oh, now you've started it.

    Since Nakedshoplifter is going to say it anyway, I might as well beat him to it and say it for him:

    Obviously the 1623 and 1655 ordinances against spending ball and powder while drinking we aimed my ancestors.

    Have we too been drinking tonight :^)?
    ROFLMAO. No, but I see your point. I'll go back and fix it.
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

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    Bubba Ron wrote:
    CRF250rider1000 wrote:
    I broke those bedroom laws multiple times last night:what::celebrateLuckily there wasn't a LEO in the room or I could have lost my gun rights
    Alex, you should give your hand a rest - you may need it for self DEFENSE :shock:
    Ron I am happy to say that her name was Kelsey:celebrate giggity giggity I was not carrying for obvious reasons but if need be the Glock can just hide out under the pillow until summoned Just to get Ron off my case, THIS IS PROOF OF HOW MY NEW YEARS WENT!!!!:celebrateIf only I could have OC'd the whole time ahahaha


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    CRF250rider1000 wrote:
    Bubba Ron wrote:
    CRF250rider1000 wrote:
    I broke those bedroom laws multiple times last night:what::celebrateLuckily there wasn't a LEO in the room or I could have lost my gun rights
    Alex, you should give your hand a rest - you may need it for self DEFENSE :shock:
    Ron I am happy to say that her name was Kelsey:celebrate giggity giggity I was not carrying for obvious reasons but if need be the Glock can just hide out under the pillow until summoned Just to get Ron off my case, THIS IS PROOF OF HOW MY NEW YEARS WENT!!!!:celebrateIf only I could have OC'd the whole time ahahaha
    EDIT: nevermind :what:

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    nova wrote:
    CRF250rider1000 wrote:
    Bubba Ron wrote:
    CRF250rider1000 wrote:
    EDIT: nevermind :what:
    I agree :?.

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    Bubba Ron wrote:
    nova wrote:
    CRF250rider1000 wrote:
    Bubba Ron wrote:
    CRF250rider1000 wrote:
    EDIT: nevermind :what:
    I agree :?.
    There goes another thread.

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    I want to add that manyof VA's sex laws went out the door a couple years ago. The Supreme Court had ruled on a Texas sodomy case and the ending result was basically government had no business in regulating sexual activity between consenting adults.

    Several states' laws were cited in the reporting article as being the most likely ones to be invalidated.

    I'll see about finding some links.

    Link to Supreme Court case: http://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/02-102.ZS.html

    Link to FindLaw: http://writ.news.findlaw.com/grossman/20050125.html

    Jan 2005 was when a lot of this went down... pun not intended.

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    CRF250rider1000 wrote:
    Bubba Ron wrote:
    CRF250rider1000 wrote:
    I broke those bedroom laws multiple times last night:what::celebrateLuckily there wasn't a LEO in the room or I could have lost my gun rights
    Alex, you should give your hand a rest - you may need it for self DEFENSE :shock:
    Ron I am happy to say that her name was Kelsey:celebrate giggity giggity I was not carrying for obvious reasons but if need be the Glock can just hide out under the pillow until summoned Just to get Ron off my case, THIS IS PROOF OF HOW MY NEW YEARS WENT!!!!:celebrateIf only I could have OC'd the whole time ahahaha
    All I can say is, YOU BASTARD, YOU LUCKY, LUCKY BASTARD.

    I was just sitting infront of my TV the whole day and most of the evening/night.

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