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    I am a Marine stationed in washington but I amfrom georgia and I amgoing home for leave. I just found out about open carry here in WA but am unfamiliar with open carry in GA. What do I need to know/ have in order to open carry in GA.

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    well since your military you get super carry rights here in GA you are not required to even get a Georgia Firearms License. With you military ID you will be able to Open carry or Concealed Carry. You will be exempt from the stupid public gathering clause we have here in GA. Might want to check out www.georgiapacking.org for a lot more indepth look at GA and carrying and consider becoming a member of GCO www.georgiacarry.org best 15$ you could ever spend to help expand our right you fight for every day :celebrate

    http://www.georgiapacking.org/GaCode...mp;section=130

    O.C.G.A. § 16-11-130
    Exemptions from Code Sections 16-11-126 through 16-11-128
    (a)Code Sections 16-11-126 through 16-11-128 shall not apply to or affect any of the following persons if such persons are employed in the offices listed below or when authorized by federal or state law, regulations, or order: (1)Peace officers, as such term is defined in paragraph (11) of Code Section 16-1-3, and retired peace officers so long as they remain certified whether employed by the state or a political subdivision of the state or another state or a political subdivision of another state but only if such other state provides a similar privilege for the peace officers of this state; (2)Wardens, superintendents, and keepers of correctional institutions, jails, or other institutions for the detention of persons accused or convicted of an offense; (3)Persons in the military service of the state or of the United States; (4)Persons employed in fulfilling defense contracts with the government of the United States or agencies thereof when possession of the weapon is necessary for manufacture, transport, installation, and testing under the requirements of such contract; (5)District attorneys, investigators employed by and assigned to a district attorney's office, assistant district attorneys, attorneys or investigators employed by the Prosecuting Attorneys' Council of the State of Georgia, and any retired district attorney, assistant district attorney, district attorneys investigator, or attorney or investigator retired from the Prosecuting Attorneys' Council of the State of Georgia, if such employee is retired in good standing and is receiving benefits under Title 47 or is retired in good standing and receiving benefits from a county or municipal retirement system; (6)State court solicitors-general; investigators employed by and assigned to a state court solicitor-general's office; assistant state court solicitors-general; the corresponding personnel of any city court expressly continued in existence as a city court pursuant to Article VI, Section X, Paragraph I, subparagraph (5) of the Constitution; and the corresponding personnel of any civil court expressly continued as a civil court pursuant to said provision of the Constitution; (7)Those employees of the State Board of Pardons and Paroles when specifically designated and authorized in writing by the members of the State Board of Pardons and Paroles to carry a weapon; (8)The Attorney General and those members of his or her staff whom he or she specifically authorizes in writing to carry a weapon; (9)Chief probation officers, probation officers, intensive probation officers, and surveillance officers employed by and under the authority of the Department of Corrections pursuant to Article 2 of Chapter 8 of Title 42, known as the "State-wide Probation Act," when specifically designated and authorized in writing by the director of Division of Probation; (10)Public safety directors of municipal corporations; (11)Explosive ordnance disposal technicians, as such term is defined by Code Section 16-7-80, and persons certified as provided in Code Section 35-8-13 to handle animals trained to detect explosives, while in the performance of their duties; (12)State and federal trial and appellate judges, full-time and permanent part-time judges of municipal and city courts, and former state trial and appellate judges retired from their respective offices under state retirement; (13)United States Attorneys and Assistant United States Attorneys; (14)County medical examiners and coroners and their sworn officers employed by county government; and (15)Clerks of the superior courts. (b)Code Sections 16-11-126 through 16-11-128 shall not apply to or affect persons who at the time of their retirement from service with the Department of Corrections were chief probation officers, probation officers, intensive probation officers, or surveillance officers, when specifically designated and authorized in writing by the director of Division of Probation. (c)Code Sections 16-11-126 through 16-11-128 shall not apply to or affect any: (1)Sheriff, retired sheriff, deputy sheriff, or retired deputy sheriff if such retired deputy sheriff is receiving benefits under the Peace Officers' Annuity and Benefit Fund provided under Chapter 17 of Title 47; (2)Member of the Georgia State Patrol or agent of the Georgia Bureau of Investigation or retired member of the Georgia State Patrol or agent of the Georgia Bureau of Investigation if such retired member or agent is receiving benefits under the Employees' Retirement System; (3)Full-time law enforcement chief executive engaging in the management of a county, municipal, state, state authority, or federal law enforcement agency in the State of Georgia, including any college or university law enforcement chief executive that is registered or certified by the Georgia Peace Officer Standards and Training Council; or retired law enforcement chief executive that formerly managed a county, municipal, state, state authority, or federal law enforcement agency in the State of Georgia, including any college or university law enforcement chief executive that was registered or certified at the time of his or her retirement by the Georgia Peace Officer Standards and Training Council, if such retired law enforcement chief executive is receiving benefits under the Peace Officers' Annuity and Benefit Fund provided under Chapter 17 of Title 47 or is retired in good standing and receiving benefits from a county, municipal, State of Georgia, state authority, or federal retirement system; or (4)Police officer of any county, municipal, state, state authority, or federal law enforcement agency in the State of Georgia, including any college or university police officer that is registered or certified by the Georgia Peace Officer Standards and Training Council, or retired police officer of any county, municipal, state, state authority, or federal law enforcement agency in the State of Georgia, including any college or university police officer that was registered or certified at the time of his or her retirement by the Georgia Peace Officer Standards and Training Council, if such retired employee is receiving benefits under the Peace Officers' Annuity and Benefit Fund provided under Chapter 17 of Title 47 or is retired in good standing and receiving benefits from a county, municipal, State of Georgia, state authority, or federal retirement system. In addition, any such sheriff, retired sheriff, deputy sheriff, retired deputy sheriff, active or retired law enforcement chief executive, or other law enforcement officer referred to in this subsection shall be authorized to carry a pistol or revolver on or off duty anywhere within the state and the provisions of Code Sections 16-11-126 through 16-11-128 shall not apply to the carrying of such firearms. (d)A prosecution based upon a violation of Code Section 16-11-126, 16-11-127, or 16-11-128 need not negative any exemptions.


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    sweet, thanx

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    Are military retirees, whohave an ID card and retain their titles for life, "(3)Persons in the military service of the state or of the United States; "? If not, why? I carry a weapon just as much while teaching at a high school in Georgia as I did in over 22 years of active duty.

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    Unfortunately, I would think not, much as we would be better off having a few people who spent an entire career serving their country.

    You retain an ID card (which helps with medical benifits and shopping) and your title (which can get a free cup of coffee as some establishments) but there aren't many Privates who are going to come to Parade Rest when addressed by you and there are no military duties which you carry out. And 'in the service of the state' pretty much implies performing some sort of duty.

    If only LEOSA extended to our services as well as our public servants. But, I guess we can't all be priveleged servants :X.


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    § 16-11-130.Exemptions from Code Sections 16-11-126 through 16-11-128 (a)Code Sections 16-11-126 through 16-11-128 shall not apply to or affect any of the following persons if such persons are employed in the offices listed below or when authorized by federal or state law, regulations, or order:

    (1)Peace officers, as such term is defined in paragraph (11) of Code Section 16-1-3, and retired peace officers so long as they remain certified whether employed by the state or a political subdivision of the state or another state or a political subdivision of another state but only if such other state provides a similar privilege for the peace officers of this state;

    (2)Wardens, superintendents, and keepers of correctional institutions, jails, or other institutions for the detention of persons accused or convicted of an offense;

    (3)Persons in the military service of the state or of the United States;

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    I don't think so, it actually states retired peace officers and does not state retired military members. As Fallschrim stated the code say in the service of, so I believe you would still need to be doing some type of work for the military still. Then again I believe that a military member is a type of Peace Officer, especially MPs or SFs.

    Not a lawyer, just my $.02

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    you can always join the GA state defense force

    http://www.gasdf.com/

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    rmodel65 wrote:
    you can always join the GA state defense force

    http://www.gasdf.com/
    My son and I willbe doing just that this weekend.

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    rmodel65 wrote:
    you can always join the GA state defense force

    http://www.gasdf.com/
    It's still kind of hard to understand why military personal don't have to have a Georgia Firearms License to carry when so many of them never carry a weapon while in the military. 22 years, three months and 22 days of active duty and I carried a weapon a total of zero days.

    If you're in military service to the state by being a member of the Georgia State Defense Force you can legally carry without a GFL almost anywhere EXCEPT when you're doing ANYTHING for them:



    7. POSSESSION OF WEAPONS:
    a. GSDF personnel when in uniform or serving out of uniform as an official representative of the GSDF are prohibited from possessing weapons on their person, in vehicle or in baggage when on a Federal or State installation. Violations of this policy can, in event of personal or car search, result in arrest.

    You can't even protect yourself by having a gun in your vehicle while at a weekend drill, but the state says you can pretty much carry anywhere :shock:. If that isn't ironic I don't know what is. Kind of like Obama being anti-gun except for the ones being used to protect him.

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    MSgt G wrote:
    rmodel65 wrote:
    you can always join the GA state defense force

    http://www.gasdf.com/
    You can't even protect yourself by having a gun in your vehicle while at a weekend drill, but the state says you can pretty much carry anywhere :shock:. If that isn't ironic I don't know what is. Kind of like Obama being anti-gun except for the ones being used to protect him.



    I think the military is anti-gun, I mean when i take an health assessment for my PHA(physical health assessment) there's 2 questions about guns. If you have any, then if they are kept unloaded and locked up. If you answer no to the second question as i always do, the small briefing/overview at the end suggests keeping the unloaded and lock for injury prevention purposes. Which is the opposite of reality as we all know, how can my wife or myself prevent injury from a burglar/rapist/murderer if we have no way to defend ourselves.

    It ridiculous! Some comanders do not allow their subordinates to carry off duty off base even if they have a carry licence.

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    GSDF can be armed but currently they are on a peacetime mission list

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    rmodel65 wrote:
    GSDF can be armed but currently they are on a peacetime mission list
    Really? I must have missed that.





    GEORGIA STATE DEFENSE FORCE STATE OF GEORGIA


    DEPT OF DEFENSE


    REGULATION NO. 600-95 Atlanta, GA 06 July 2007


    WEAPONS


    Paragraph Page


    Purpose 1 1


    References 2 1


    Applicability 3 1


    Definitions 4 1


    Training With Weapons 5 2


    Deployment With Weapons 6 2


    Possession Of Weapons 7 2


    Law Enforcement Personnel 8 2


    Ceremonial Events 9 2


    This revision of GSDF Regulation 600-95 supersedes all previous versions which should be destroyed.


    1. PURPOSE
    : To establish Georgia State Defense Force (GSDF) policy and procedures governing possession, training and deployment with weapons.


    2. REFERENCES:


    a
    . Georgia Department of Defense Joint Operations Directorate Memorandum 10-4, dated 21 June 2001.


    b
    . GSDF Policy Memorandum dated 21 March 2007, subject: Policy for Law Enforcement Officers serving in the Georgia State Defense Force.


    3. APPLICABILITY:
    This regulation applies to all elements, units and personnel of the Georgia State Defense Force.


    .


    4. DEFINITIONS:


    a
    . "Weapon" as defined for the purposes of this regulation shall mean:



    (1) Any firearm, including but not limited to rifles, shotguns, handguns and gas powered or mechanically powered guns.


    (2) Any knife or other cutting object having a blade exceeding six inches. Axes, hatchets, machetes, chainsaws or similar tools are excluded from this definition when used for search and rescue, debris clearing, construction operations or related training. Kitchen utensils are excluded only when in use during food preparation.


    (3) Any spear, spring stick, metal knuckles, blackjack, expandable batons, or martial arts devices such as nunchaku, throwing discs, stars or spring loaded knife thrower.


    .



    (4).Any stun gun, taser or any explosive in any configuration.

    b
    . "Defensive Spray" shall mean any device which projects, releases or emits tear gas, pepper spray or any other substance intended to produce temporary discomfort through being vaporized or otherwise dispensed in the air


    c
    . "Baton" shall mean any bat, club, nightstick, riot stick or other bludgeon-type device whether or not intended for use as part of riot prevention or riot control activities.


    d.
    The GSDF on-site commander shall have the authority to determine if a potentially harmful device or item not described above should be classified as a weapon.


    5. TRAINING WITH WEAPONS:


    a
    . GSDF personnel are prohibited from training with operable weapons or "defensive sprays" of any type when in uniform or when serving in or out of uniform as an official representative of the GSDF.


    b.
    Batons or similar may be used for purposes of conducting law enforcement augmentation training only when specifically authorized in training orders pre-approved by the Adjutant General and under the supervision of National Guard or civil law enforcement officers.


    6. DEPLOYMENT WITH WEAPONS:


    a
    . GSDF personnel are prohibited from deploying on state active duty missions where they would be required to use or employ firearms or weapons other than those needed for search and rescue, debris clearing or similar purposes. (See paragraph 4a(2), above).


    b
    . Possession and use of batons by GSDF personnel as part of riot suppression operations is not permitted unless pre-approved by the Adjutant General, designated personnel have been officially certified by the National Guard or civil law enforcement instructor and have been specifically authorized by HQ, GSDF issued mission orders.


    7. POSSESSION OF WEAPONS:


    a
    . GSDF personnel when in uniform or serving out of uniform as an official representative of the GSDF are prohibited from possessing weapons on their person, in vehicle or in baggage when on a Federal or State installation. Violations of this policy can, in event of personal or car search, result in arrest.


    b
    . Possession of defensive sprays is permitted only when in transit to or from missions, drills or training exercises.


    8. LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL:
    The following shall apply as concerns law enforcement personnel who are also serving members of the GSDF:


    a
    . Law Enforcement Officer members of the GSDF shall comply with the provisions of this regulation at all times when on duty with or wearing the uniform of the GSDF


    b
    . Law Enforcement Officer members of the GSDF shall not engage in any police or law enforcement related activities while wearing the uniform of the GSDF.


    c
    . A GSDF member who is also a Law Enforcement Officer must remove all insignia of the GSDF from his/her uniform if a situation arises where they need to take a law enforcement action outside the mission of their GSDF unit or contrary to standing GSDF rules and regulations

    9
    . CEREMONIAL EVENTS: Not withstanding the foregoing provisions, GSDF personnel may under command authorization train with, transport and handle inert or simulated weapons for use in ceremonial functions such as honor guards and honors details, for conduct of ceremonial functions such as military weddings, military organizational birthday events, formal Dining’s In/Out, or similar events.




    The proponent of this regulation is the GSDF Commanding General. Local supplementation or alteration is not authorized. Comments or suggested changes may be submitted directly to the Headquarters GSDF Judge Advocate General for review.


    BY ORDER OF THE GOVERNOR


    OFFICIAL:


    DAVID B. POYTHRESS LYLE E. LETTEER, JR.


    Lieutenant General Colonel


    The Adjutant General Chief of Staff


    DISTRIBUTION: GSDF-A

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