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LUNCH? Thats the best you can come up with? Anyway.... The CLASS was 8 hours. I have a DD-214. I suppose my certificate is still worhtless.
The class was exactly as described? 8 hours. Included Range time? Honestly Icant understand why anyone would want to sit through 2 days of class. To question the class, time requirementor State requirement, I would think the law enforcement officer giving the class would meet the state requirements. If anything else, to not risk losing his NRA instruction license but also not to come under fire from his own police department in which he works and also in which he conducted the class within the city where he worked...
Not to mention the fact he offered to meet us indivdually at the range for additional training if we needed it and also gave us his personal cell number for any questions we may have in the future. FREE of charge.
I really can't see paying $150 for 2 days of some guy blowing whistles and yelling into a bull horn. If thats the type of training you need, good luck with that.Being prior military I really only needed the law portion.
Not wanting to get to much into the Open carry discussion, I will say it did not go over well. However was discussed. The basic outcome was this..
Printing was the terminolgy used. It is considered printing. If a weapon is visible by a CPL holder. Not open carry.
The only reason Open carry has been allowed in Michigan is that most of the open carrydoneis donebecause there are strength in numbers.
There is really no way to open carry a firearm without it being considered brandishing or carry concealed. If part of the firearm is concealed the court considers it concealed. If you do not have a CPL you will be charged with CCW.
If the firearm is totally in viewable, whateverway it is achieved more then likely you will be charged with disturbing the peace or brandishing. If you do not have a CPL.
If you feel you are going to open carry, get a attorney on retainer. More then likely your going to need it sooner or later.
You may take this how you will. I feel this is plausable, sound advice. For those of us that cannot afford to keep a attorney on retainer. Knowing the law is one thing. Paying to keep a attorney on retainer is another.
For those of you that promote open carry and hold CPL's.As I understand it,that when you "Open Carry" law enforcement does not consider it that at all. As it is considered printing. So for allyou that say "I open carry here", "I open carry there". I suggest if your really wishing to exercise your rights, give up your CPL and then open carry, and let us all know what happens. How much you pay in attorney fee's, court costs and/orhow much you win in your lawsuit.How much time you spend in jail. Set the precidence, we'll all see the outcome on TV I am sure... I might also add totry it down here, anywhere other then hick ville rural stickwater area's when you do give up your CPL.
Waiting to be hacked n attacked for this one...LOL
As for the lunch when you contact Kathy. She will advise you to pack a lunch and arrive a half hour early. She will also advise you not to bring your weapon into training roomand that you will only need it at the range. Pay close attention to the class and take notes. If you havent purchased a firearm and you do so before the next class, take it to the range before the class.
