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    "The homicide rate on the Peninsula was down in 2008, but our cities' gun culture still takes a horrific toll on young people. The most significant decline occurred in Newport News: It had 16 homicides last year, down from 28 in 2007."


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    Crime culture != gun culture, silly liberals

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    I responded.

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    Here is my contribution:

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    Let’s be honest – comparing data from one year against data from another year and attempting to draw any sort of inference would have you laughed out of freshman statistics. Trends in crime data are best viewed when looking at 5-10 year lengths of time.

    Here are some examples:

    Guns sales rise as crime and accident rates fall.

    Roughly 50 million new guns have been sold to Americans since 1998 bringing the total number of guns owned to approximately 300 million (reference U.S. Department of the Treasury and Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms). Nearly every state has right to carry laws allowing citizens to lawfully carry a concealed firearm with ten states joining since 1998 (reference National Firearm Association).

    Crimes involving firearms are down nearly 10% nationwide since 1998 (reference Federal Bureau of Investigation). Suicides committed with firearms are down 2% since 1998 (reference Center for Disease Control and Prevention). Accidental firearm fatalities are down over 20% since 1998 which represents an all time low. The most significant reduction in accidental firearm fatalities is show in those 14 years old and under with a reduction of over 50% in accidents (reference National Safety Council).

    Less than 1% of all fatal accidents involved firearms. Over 75% of all fatal accidents involve automobiles, poisoning, and falls. Accidental firearm fatalities continue to have the largest percentage decrease of all the measured types of accidental fatalities (reference National Safety Council).

    Daily Press…you should be ashamed of yourself.


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    I sent correspondence to the notoriously anti-gun Daily Press asking for clarification on their facts.

    The article states that there were 16 homicide victims but the link provided for "2008 Homicides" list 39 victims with only five (5) under 18yo. I would hardly call this "horrific" - sad maybe but not an epidemic.

    Where is the correlation between the 16 figure and the 39 shown on the supportive page?

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    Renegade wrote:
    "The homicide rate on the Peninsula was down in 2008, but our cities' gun culture still takes a horrific toll on young people. The most significant decline occurred in Newport News: It had 16 homicides last year, down from 28 in 2007."


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    Is this not the same area where Danbus is OCing a lot? Hum ...
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    Hawkflyer wrote:
    Renegade wrote:
    "The homicide rate on the Peninsula was down in 2008, but our cities' gun culture still takes a horrific toll on young people. The most significant decline occurred in Newport News: It had 16 homicides last year, down from 28 in 2007."

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    Is this not the same area where Danbus is OCing a lot? Hum ...
    Peninsula = Newport News, Hampton as well as a few bedroom communities.

    Yes if I remember correctly, Dan had one of his "events" on a City of Hampton public bus.

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    I responded. With just a HINT of sarcasm.

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    Grapeshot wrote:
    I sent correspondence to the notoriously anti-gun Daily Press asking for clarification on their facts.

    The article states that there were 16 homicide victims but the link provided for "2008 Homicides" list 39 victims with only five (5) under 18yo. I would hardly call this "horrific" - sad maybe but not an epidemic.

    Where is the correlation between the 16 figure and the 39 shown on the supportive page?
    Apparently the Daily-Press has chosen to ignore/not respond to my email to them. Am I surprised? Not really.

    Yata hey
    You will not rise to the occasion; you will fall back on your level of training. Archilochus, 650 BC

    Old and treacherous will beat young and skilled every time. Yata hey.

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