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A story from England,,wake up America!

nking

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In God We Trust

You're sound asleep when you hear a thump outside your bedroom=20

door. Half-awake, and nearly paralyzed with fear, you hear muffled
whispers. At least two people have broken into your house and are moving
your way. With your heart pumping, you reach down beside your bed and
pick up your shotgun. You rack a shell into the chamber, then inch
toward the door and open it. In the darkness, you make out two shadows.
One holds something that looks like a crowbar. When the
intruder brandishes it as if to strike, you raise the shotgun and fire.
The blast knocks both thugs to the floor. One writhes and screams while
the second man crawls to the front door and lurches outside. As you pick
up the telephone to call police, you know you're in trouble.
In your country, most guns were outlawed years before, and
the few that are privately owned are so stringently regulated as to =
make
them useless. Yours was never registered. Police arrive and inform you
that the second burglar has died. They arrest you for First Degree
Murder and Illegal Possession of a Firearm. When you talk to your
attorney, he tells you not to worry: authorities will probably plea the
case down to manslaughter.
"What kind of sentence will I get?" you ask.
"Only ten-to-twelve years," he replies, as if that's nothing.
"Behave yourself, and you'll be out in seven."
The next day, the shooting is the lead story in the local
newspaper. Somehow, you're portrayed as an eccentric vigilante while the
two men you shot are represented as choirboys. Their friends and
relatives can't find an unkind word to say about them. Buried deep down
in the article, authorities acknowledge that both "victims" have been
arrested numerous times. But the next day's headline says it all:
"Lovable Rogue Son Didn't Deserve to Die." The thieves have been
transformed from career criminals into Robin Hood-type pranksters. As
the days wear on, the story takes wings. The national media picks it up,
then the international media. The surviving burglar has become a folk
hero.
Your attorney says the thief is preparing to sue you, and he'll
probably win. The media publishes reports that your home has been
burglarized several times in the past and that you've been critical of
local police for their lack of effort in apprehending the suspects.
After the last break-in, you told your neighbor that you would be
prepared next time. The District Attorney uses this to allege that you
were lying in wait for the burglars.
A few months later, you go to trial. The charges haven't been
reduced, as your lawyer had so confidently predicted.=20
When you take the stand, your anger at the injustice of it all works =
against you.
Prosecutors paint a picture of you as a mean, vengeful man. It doesn't
take long for the jury to convict you of all charges.
The judge sentences you to life in prison.
This case really happened.
On August 22, 1999, Tony Martin of Emneth, Norfolk , England ,
killed one burglar and wounded a second. In April, 2000, he was
convicted and is now serving a life term.
How did it become a crime to defend one's own life in the once
great British Empire ?
It started with the Pistols Act of 1903. This seemingly
reasonable law forbade selling pistols to minors or felons and
established that handgun sales were to be made only to those who had a
license. The Firearms Act of 1920 expanded licensing to include not only
handguns but all firearms except shotguns.
Later laws passed in 1953 and 1967 outlawed the carrying of any
weapon by private citizens and mandated the registration of all
shotguns.
Momentum for total handgun confiscation began in earnest after
the Hungerford mass shooting in 1987. Michael Ryan, a mentally disturbed
Man with a Kalashnikov rifle (AK-47), walked down the streets shooting
everyone he saw. When the smoke cleared, 17 people were dead.
The British public, already de-sensitized by eighty years of=20
"gun control", demanded even tougher restrictions. (The seizure of all=20
privately owned handguns was the objective even though Ryan used a
rifle.) Nine years later, at Dunblane , Scotland , Thomas =
Hamilton used a semi-automatic weapon to murder 16 children and a teacher at a public
school.
For many years, the media had portrayed all gun owners as
mentally unstable, or worse, criminals. Now the press=20
had a real kook
with which to beat up law-abiding gun owners. Day after day, week after
week, the media gave up all pretense of objectivity and demanded a total
ban on all handguns. The Dunblane Inquiry, a few months later, sealed
the fate of the few sidearm still owned by private citizens.
During the years in which the British government incrementally
took away most gun rights, the notion that a citizen had the right to
armed self-defense came to be seen as vigilantism. Authorities refused
to grant gun licenses to people who were threatened, claiming that
self-defense was no longer considered a reason to own a gun. Citizens
who shot burglars or robbers or rapists were charged while the real
criminals were released.
Indeed, after the Martin shooting, a police spokesman was
quoted as saying, "We cannot have people take the law into their own
hands."
All of Martin's neighbors had been robbed numerous times, and
several elderly people were severely injured in beatings by young thugs=20
who had no fear of the consequences. Martin himself, a collector of
antiques, had seen most of his collection trashed or stolen by=20
burglars.
When the Dunblane Inquiry ended, citizens who owned handguns
were given three months to turn them over to local authorities. Being
good British subjects, most people obeyed the law. The few who didn't
were visited by police and threatened with ten-year prison sentences if
they didn't comply. Police later bragged that they'd taken nearly
200,000 handguns from private citizens.
How did the authorities know who had handguns? The guns had been registered and licensed. Kinda like cars. Sound familiar?
WAKE UP AMERICA , THIS IS WHY OUR FOUNDING FATHERS PUT THE

SECOND AMENDMENT IN OUR CONSTITUTION.
"..it does not require a majority to prevail, but rather an
irate, tireless minority keen to set brush fires in people's minds.."
--Samuel Adams
 

Hawkflyer

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During WWII the British did not have weapons with which to arm local civil defense personnel. A plea went out to Citizens of the United States to DONATE personally owned firearms that were in good working order for distribution to British citizens so they could defend "Fortress Briton" against the inevitable invasion by German forces.

After the war, these firearms were collected by the British Government and unceremoniously dumped into the North Sea.

I think the next time they can buy their own firearms.

Regards
 

Citizen

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Hawkflyer wrote:
SNIP I think the next time they can buy their own firearms.

And part of the price should be adeclaration from Parliament and Crown that the right of the British people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. Suitably worded to prevent the incremental usurpations we've experienced from our own government. Extended to all Commonwealth countries, if their law permits it. Meaning we don't sell unless that happens.

Another angle would be the British people refusing to fight unless their government firstcompletely restores all of their rights.

Given the way the government in this country has treated us, I wouldn't lift a finger to support the bozo's in power without that having first occurred. No sense supporting the very people who are trying to tyrannize me, the people who have stolen my constitution and the Foundingprinciples. Nope.
 

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The British people allowed themselves to be subjugated. I have no sympathy for the majority, but only for the small minority who tried to fight or were too young to fight.

If the request went out again for weapons for the British people I would not participate, I would not help in any way and I would oppose $1 of tax dollars being spent on the matter. In the meantime I will continue the good fight here to maintain our constitutionally protected rights.
 

Hawkflyer

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Both you guys are right. But I have to say I REALLY like Citizens idea. Don't sell them the guns until they restore the rights of their citizens. This has a certain attractiveness as the best tool to free a lot of people.
 

Squid13

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The people are to blame. I admit to my ignorance on British law, but a jury convicted the man in the article. A jury of British citizens. The people gave up their guns. They did it willingly according to every news source I've seen. F*** 'em. And f*** us if we do the same.
 

VAopencarry

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Well, I would agree America needs to wake up.

What I do not understand is why someone post this story on this forum. It's safe to believe members here are aware we need to protect the 2A. Preachin to the choir....
 

Hawkflyer

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VAopencarry wrote:
Well, I would agree America needs to wake up.

What I do not understand is why someone post this story on this forum. It's safe to believe members here are aware we need to protect the 2A. Preachin to the choir....

Two reasons. Most of laws are based in English common law, especially the origins of TSA. So it would be reasonable to view England as a Laboratory pointing to where we are headed.

Second, this forum is attracting international attention, and this kind of story is increasingly relevant.

Regards
 
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