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    I live on Dort HWY. in Mt.Morris

    i have a big sign out front that can be painted to say whatever we want it to say.The Problem is i have no paint or money to get paint but if anyone has any old paint laying around and want to paint a big ocdo sign on it for a while then feel free...

    We get a bit of traffic up and down here it's notthe best area in the world but if it gets the word to one More person then mission accomplished



    just a thought anyways

    lemme know




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    That's a wonderful offer, steve. I wonder if we can use the layouts from the banner signs which have been produced for MOC events.

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    It isanything goes long as it is proper for OCDO and the good fight...



    the sign also has light's so it will be visible at night (well with a little work, i can handle that part)

    i dont have an exact size for it but it is pretty good size either way can't beat the price :celebrate

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    I finally had time to look up your location. What a great place for a sign! Please take a look in the following thread. Venator posted an image of the banner he helped create.

    http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum30/20206-2.html



    Any thoughts on these?

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    they all look good to me

    i got to be honest tho i am no artist, so if anybody is good with paint i will leave the option up to them

    well i hope this helps us out a bit

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    Be sure to check your local ordinances for signage. When I wanted to advertise my business in my yard in Pinckney, the ordinance said simply that the business must be licensed. My builders license qualified me to advertise with a sign. Some places place restrictions on size, lighting, etc. CYA, before you put this up, so as to avoid tickets/fines.
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    it's already up, the place we bought was a kennel at one point so the sign is already there

    and seeing how i'm not advertising a "buisness" but our rights i dont see the problem.

    dont worry about any problems i will have them taken care of if any come up



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    Do you have any idea what size the board is dimensionally? Does it have a plywood base?

    If it is a fairly small board, a sign might be prepared in the dry, and then mounted to the board in one piece. Do you think this is possible?

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    roughly12ft wide by 6ft tall. it is plywood backing so somethign could bemade and then screwed on



    i don't have a tape here to measure it to perfection



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    If we could raise the money a vinyl banner could be made and put up. Depending on the dimensions of the sign a simple banner could be made for around $100. If we decide to go that way I would be happy to design something with the groups input.
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    I live fairly close. I can offer a helping hand, and a little cash (i'm strapped) either way.
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    I would expect any time spent designing, traveling, and installing would be considered to be an "in kind" contribution equatable to cash. As for me, I'm cross-state, but feel its time to pony up some dough.

    I like the placement in the Flint area (even though I am near Grand Rapids). I get the feeling from the board that Flint represents fertile ground for MOC.

    Before we decide the actual signage we should use, we might want to decides whether paint or vinyl would be most appropriate to this particular sign's location. Do we have anyone who could give a second opinion on the benefits of this particular sign's location?

    This is not to place any doubt on steve's opinion. It would just be good to ensure our limited funds are placed where they have the most impact.

    Also, I am unfamiliar with theoutdoor lifespan of a vinyl banner. Can you clue us in on this, Venator?

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    Hcidem wrote:
    I would expect any time spent designing, traveling, and installing would be considered to be an "in kind" contribution equatable to cash. As for me, I'm cross-state, but feel its time to pony up some dough.

    I like the placement in the Flint area (even though I am near Grand Rapids). I get the feeling from the board that Flint represents fertile ground for MOC.

    Before we decide the actual signage we should use, we might want to decides whether paint or vinyl would be most appropriate to this particular sign's location. Do we have anyone who could give a second opinion on the benefits of this particular sign's location?

    This is not to place any doubt on steve's opinion. It would just be good to ensure our limited funds are placed where they have the most impact.

    Also, I am unfamiliar with theoutdoor lifespan of a vinyl banner. Can you clue us in on this, Venator?Vinyl signs would most likely last a year or so depending on the weather. A painted sign would last longer but would also fade over time.
    The greatest cost of having a sign or billboard is the monthly fee which can be several hundred dollars a month depending on location. In this case we would not have that cost, so our only cost would be the initial materials.

    Ourbiggest problemwith any MOC project is getting people to give hard earned money for our causes. My experience is that aselect feware doing all the work and donating their time and money for MOC projects. Doug has not recouped all of his $200 outlay for the three banners yet.

    So, my thought is that with a vinyl banner we could get a year out of it and paint over it with acrylic paint as needed to refresh the sign. It's easier to paint over the letters and designs than to start from scratch. We could also take down the sign and use it for other events so it's more versatile.

    To hand paint it will take more time and effort than just coughing up the money and ordering the sign. vinyl isthe easier way to go.

    As for the location I say go for it. It's being offered for no money and it is on a busy roadway in the Flint area.


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    Venator wrote:
    Doug has not recouped all of his $200 outlay for the three banners yet.
    Speaking of which, I recently was looking around here for a paypal link or something to give Doug a few bucks. Can anyonehelp with that? How much does he have left out of pocket that hasn't been covered by the donations so far?
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    Another important point, which I may have missed, is how long will the sign be available?

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    i plan on making another sign to put out front for my pc work and other things i do

    so it will be available for id say minimum 6 months to a year

    also i have no objections to making a painted sign if someone has the paint i mean i'm not great with paint but if it saves us all some cash then i'm for it

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    It sounds like hanging a vinyl banner would be the right approach for this opportunity.

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    A very close friend of mine owns and operates his sighn company in oakland county so if you get some qoutes pm me and I sure I could get us a better deal and donate as well...

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    The vinyl will hold up just fine in the weather. It is frequently used on signs, vehicles and the like. My company just bought a new location and our outdoor signs are all vinyl.

    I would be happy to throw $5 on it when I send my money for the challenge coin Venator.
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    Signage Laws are most unusual But Fact Political or Religious ARE protected by first amendment .Look it up be prepared .

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    I'll work on a simple design, I need to know the approximate dimensions of the sign.
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    steve wrote:
    roughly12ft wide by 6ft tall. it is plywood backing so somethign could bemade and then screwed on



    i don't have a tape here to measure it to perfection

    Here they are...

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    Ist Draft. Comments welcome.
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    I think that in order to know what the effectiveness of this sign will be, we need more information.

    A) How far is it from the road?

    B) At what angle to the road is it?

    Without these critical pieces of information, We have no idea weather the average driver will even be able to read it. While those letters look huge in the sample provided, they may be tiny at 100? 300? Feet from the highway.



    To be readibly legible to MOST people, text needs to take up about .3 degrees OR MORE of the circle that has it's center at their eye. This is equal to 2 *TAN(.3/2) * DISTANCE = 2 * TAN(.15) * DISTANCE

    Or, Roughly 1/191 of the Distance.. If the sign is 150 feet off of the road, the charachters would need to be about .8 FEET Tall to be Legible. Keep in mind, this is LEGIBLE, not STAND-OUT-ISH, Just legible. Double that size, 1.6 feet, and they begin to appear "Big and Bold" to most people.

    The donation of the sign location is wonderful, and the donation of time to create the sign, equally great. I just want to make sure that the hard work doesn't go to waste.

    Once this is all decided, I've got a few bucks toward the effort as well.

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    lol you can't miss it

    http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=43.10...=0&src=msl



    that is my yard you can see the sign by the road.



    if anyone lives near feel free to stop in and check it out just shoot me a pm

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