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    For Immediate Release – January, 2008
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    Representative Dan Cooper Introduces Bill to Decriminalize the Open Carry of Handguns In South Carolina[1]




    South Carolina is one of only 6 states banning the open carry of handguns. In most states, adults may lawfully carry unconcealed handguns without any permit.[2]

    But now Representative Dan Cooper (R – Anderson County) wants to change that.

    Cooper has introduced H. 3003, a bill to make South Carolina like most states where anyone legally allowed to own a handgun may carry it openly without any permit. Folks who want to carry their handguns **concealed** will still need a concealed weapons permit. And with 32 co-sponsors, including some heavy hitters, and considering that Cooper is the influential Chairman of the House Ways & Means Committee, it sure looks like H. 3003 is goin’ to have some legs!

    H. 3003 comes on the heels of an online petition in South Carolina with almost 2,000 signatures calling for the decriminalization of open carry. See the petition at http://www.petitiononline.com/scocp/petition.html. [3]

    The United States Supreme Court said recently in the DC Gun Ban case that the Second Amendment secures the right to keep "carry" arms, but not concealed arms, citing to a line of cases upholding the constitutional right to open carry.[4] Notably, neighboring North Carolina’s Supreme Court has held that under that state’s constitution, no license may be required to openly carry handguns. See State v. Kerner, 107 S.E. 222 (1921).

    OpenCarry.org strongly endorses Representative Dan Cooper’s effort to decriminalize open carry in South Carolina, and our South Carolina members will be actively working to ensure this effort’s success.

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    Media Contacts:
    Mike Stollenwerk, Mike@OpenCarry.org
    John Pierce, John@OpenCarry.org

    Note: John and Mike are the Co-founders of OpenCarry.org, the cyberhub of the open carry movement with over 14,000 registered members (click on forum tab at OpenCarry.org and
    look at the lower left for exact membership data). See more at http://www.opencarry.org/press.html and http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum63.

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    [1] The bill is H. 3003 at http://www.scstatehouse.gov/sess118_2009-2010/bills/3003.htm.

    [2] See map at http://www.opencarry.org/opencarry.html.

    [3] A similar petition in Texas has resulted in a surge of interest in open carry reform there as well, and the introduction of an open carry bill there by Representative Debbie Riddle (R – Houston) is rumored to be imminent.

    [4] See District of Columbia v Heller at http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/07-2901.pdf, pages 13 and 39-42. This pdf document searches easily – try search term “openly.”

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    Great! Texas needs some heavy hitters, too!

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    Awesome Mike. Let us know where were needed.

    Edit: I got your email Mike. Still trying to get w/ Bob and then we'll round up some volunteers.

    Richard

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    And we got picked up here already: http://www.opposingviews.com/article...ing-open-carry

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    Im gonna be making some calls tomorrow. I think I can get on at least one station in my area. Ive got some contacts for a focus group too.



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    Sure - spread the press release to all your SC press contacts - try to get them to link to the petition and mention OpenCarry.org.

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    Just emailed the story to local news paper...

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    I grew up in SC and it has pissed me off that I can't carry there for some time. I can't even carry concealed since there is no reciprocity with Utah. It boggles my mind that great states like SC and Texas that have always stood for freedom would deny the right to open carry.

    Good Luck from Utah!

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    I posted the press release on SCDNR forum and already picked up a few signatures hopefully some opencarry.org members.

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    This is great great news SC!


    Glad to see Mr Cooper step up. Folks, send that man your support and see the rest of it through! :celebrate

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    News Release emailed to Florence Morning News, WPDE TV-15, and WBTW TV-13.

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    Sent to news channel 7 , WYFF news 4 and fox carolina .

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    Ive got calls in to a few stations. Ill hear back shortly. I think Ill be able to get on one of them sometime next week for sure.

    Florence area...



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    We are in contact today with 2 radio stations in the Florence/Myrtle Beach area. We should be able to get the info out on those 2 stations withing the next week.

    Gathered a list of ALL daily papers in SC and will begin calling today.

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    Hello,

    I've just read the bill and I can't seem tofind the laguage decriminalizing open carry. Did I miss it or just not understand it?

    Thanks,

    Carry All:?

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    carryall wrote:
    Hello,

    I've just read the bill and I can't seem tofind the laguage decriminalizing open carry. Did I miss it or just not understand it?

    Thanks,

    Carry All:?
    The bill repeals 16-23-20.

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    This is great news. I wasn't sure if any of the six other than Texas was currently looking to overturn their OC ban.

    If this passes as well as Texas' that knocks OC bans down to 4 states. If Florida can get its act together than I think its only a matter of time before Oklahoma and Arkansas get on board. Of course, im not holding my breath for New York but if the number of states that ban OC goes from 6 to 1 inside of the first year or so of Obama's presidency that might make him think twice about his Brady bunch lovin gun grabbin ways.

    Now before you inundate me with how much of a gun grabbin liberal obama is let me say "I KNOW". But i think he is more of a political opportunist than a true idealogue and won't piss in the wind if its blowing hard enough in his face.

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    Unfortunately, H. 3003 is not as clean a bill as one would want it to be. There are some very negative aspects to this bill, which are detailed in the GrassRoots analysis of H. 3003.

    Please read the GrassRoots analysis before committing to full support of H. 3003. Unless this bill gets amended to fix the identified problems, it is not deserving of our support.

    Rob

    *** GrassRoots Legislative Watch ***

    H. 3003

    This is a Legislative Watch announcement from GrassRoots GunRights of SC.

    This email is sent for information purposes only. No immediate action
    is required. If immediate action becomes needed on a gun-related bill,
    GrassRoots will send out a GrassRoots Action Alert email with
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    15 January 2009

    The following gun-related bill has been sponsored in the South
    Carolina General Assembly!

    Bill H. 3003 sponsored by Representative Cooper (R-Anderson).

    A full GrassRoots analysis of the bill can be found at:
    http://scfirearms.org/Legislative/H3003.html

    Bill Rentiers
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    All of Michigan wishes South Carolina GOOD LUCK!springerdave.

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    Good luck, SC.

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    Robert Butler wrote:
    Unfortunately, H. 3003 is not as clean a bill as one would want it to be. There are some very negative aspects to this bill, which are detailed in the GrassRoots analysis of H. 3003.

    Please read the GrassRoots analysis before committing to full support of H. 3003. Unless this bill gets amended to fix the identified problems, it is not deserving of our support.

    Rob

    *** GrassRoots Legislative Watch ***

    H. 3003

    This is a Legislative Watch announcement from GrassRoots GunRights of SC.

    This email is sent for information purposes only. No immediate action
    is required. If immediate action becomes needed on a gun-related bill,
    GrassRoots will send out a GrassRoots Action Alert email with
    information and instructions on what to do.

    15 January 2009

    The following gun-related bill has been sponsored in the South
    Carolina General Assembly!

    Bill H. 3003 sponsored by Representative Cooper (R-Anderson).

    A full GrassRoots analysis of the bill can be found at:
    http://scfirearms.org/Legislative/H3003.html

    Bill Rentiers
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    GrassRoots GunRights of SC
    I understand your concerns, and agree with most of the analysis in the link above, but disagree with the conclusion that under H. 3003, "gun owners give up something (i.e., vehicle carry for CWP holders[)]."

    The cannon of statutoryconstruction to try to give meaning to every word of a statute applies to the text of the statute,not the bill or bills that got it there - I see no problem with removing the currently superfluous CWP exception for vehicle carry - in fact, leaving exceptions in a statue where none need to be there often causes other problems - in this case, looking at the code as a whole post H. 3003, keeping the CWP exemption for vehicles could actually call into question the right of open carriers to open carry in vehicles without any permit.

    These are just my constructive thoughts - I agree with your other concerns and conclusions and agree that leaning forward in the saddle on this bill is important.

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    Mike wrote:
    I understand your concerns, and agree with most of the analysis in the link above, but disagree with the conclusion that under H. 3003, "gun owners give up something (i.e., vehicle carry for CWP holders[)]."

    The cannon of statutoryconstruction to try to give meaning to every word of a statute applies to the text of the statute,not the bill or bills that got it there
    Well, I guess we will have to agree to disagree over what the law says and how it is interpreted.

    The courts will see that Section 16-23-20 was moved into Section 23-31-215(O) and give the moved language - and the implications from the non moved language - the same meanings that the law now gives to that language.

    BTW, which law school did you graduate from? I graduated near the top of my class from the USC School of Law.

    Rob



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    They have an unlicensed OC bill introduced with a petition less than 2,000 signatures and we have one almost 53,000 signatures and nothing's even introduced yet?! WTF!

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    Robert Butler wrote:
    The courts will see that Section 16-23-20 was moved into Section 23-31-215(O) and give the moved language - and the implications from the non moved language - the same meanings that the law now gives to that language.
    Hmm. Maybe somthing specific about SC statutory construction - can you give mecite to authority where SC state courts look beyong the statute's text to former bill machinations?

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    Ianmtx wrote:
    They have an unlicensed OC bill introduced with a petition less than 2,000 signatures and we have one almost 53,000 signatures and nothing's even introduced yet?! WTF!
    Well, get this - a bil for open carry has been drafted by an Arkansas Rep already too, though not yet introduced.

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