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    Hello. First post here.

    I wanted to know if you can OC at the University of Wyoming, Laramie? I can contact the campus, however think I may get a bias answer considering the leftist that run lower education institutes in this country. Thought I would ask here and get a more truthful answer.

    Great board. Lots of good reads.

    Thanks in advance.

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    Just spoke to the Albany County Sheriff's Department and the Laramie Police Department. The PD confirmed for me that UW is off limits for open carry and suggested I call the campus to ask about concealed carry. The Police Department also suggested I should steer clear of the campus area, since OC in that area will be more likely generate calls.

    Personally, I've OCed downtown (on 3rd and some areas of Grand Ave.) with no problems. My OC is a massive 357 revolver so it's hard to miss. Never had any run in with Laramie PD although I have had a few police cruisers drive by very slowly. I waved and they waved back.

    Albany County Sheriff's Department

    http://www.superpages.com/bp/Laramie...2064634637.htm

    City of Laramie Police Department

    http://www.superpages.com/bp/Laramie...2064634707.htm

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    I appreciate your feedback very much. Great info. I will certainly follow the law and not carry on campus, however I must admit that I realy don't care if the police get a bunch of calls from people in the area just because they do not know the law. It is far more importantfor me to defend myself with my weapon than to worry about the police getting phone calls.

    What is unfortunate is that I can't carry on campus. It is this very place where I worry the most. It is so illogical to me. What a great place to go and commit a crime when you know there are plenty of people around to hurt/kill and non of them are armed.

    Problem is I then risk being booted from school, costing me money and an education.

    In the end, it is nothing more than a calculated risk that I am forced into.

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    Have you called campus security to ask about CC on campus? Are you 21?

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    I won't be there for a few months. No, I have not called yet, but will.

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    Yes I am over 21.

    Called campus police and they said UW is "a completely gun free campus"...

    no open carry

    no concealed carry

    I asked about those who live on campus housing and they said the UW police department will "store your gun in a safe place".

    I also asked if this included UW sports events and it did.

    In summary: no guns allowed under any circumstances. I'll look into starting something up once I get there.

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    Just a heads up. According to Wyoming State Law 6-8-104, all schools and universities in the state are "gun free" zones, period.



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    Yes, I actually found that law after I posted the question. Thanks for the info. though.

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    The-Fly wrote:
    Just a heads up. According to Wyoming State Law 6-8-104, all schools and universities in the state are "gun free" zones, period.

    I believe there is some wiggle room with"written consent" at the University level, but of course he's already spoken with the folks at UW.

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    There is actually a movement to allow concealed carry on campus. Check out the website http://www.concealedcampus.org
    They have a group on facebook, and are activly pushing legislation in many states to allow CC on campus. They are currently looking for a campus leader, so maybe you could fill the void. If you do, let me know. mringer@uwyo.edu(I would be a Campus leader, but hold 2 jobs while trying to finish my education)
    I know its not open carry, but its a start in the right direction.

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    The-Fly wrote:
    Just a heads up. According to Wyoming State Law 6-8-104, all schools and universities in the state are "gun free" zones, period.
    I checked that section, and it appears to forbid only concealed carry:

    (t) No permit issued pursuant to this section or any permit issued from any other state shall authorize any person to carry a concealed firearm into:

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    (vi) Any school, college or professional athletic event not related to firearms;

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    (x) Any college or university facility without the written consent of the security service of the college or university;
    Do you have a cite dealing with openly carried firearms?

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    6-8-104. (t) No permit issued pursuant to this section or any permit issued from any other state shall authorize any person to carry a concealed firearm into;(x) Any college or university facility without the written consent of the security service of the college or university.

    It only states you must get written consent, nothing about a gun-ban or giving the college powers over and above the legislature.

    There is nothing in the state constitution or in the state statutes - Title 21, that gives any state college or University, the power to make gun law, Wyoming gun laws are preempted by the state legislature - Period. (that includes OC)

    They are only doing this because we let them, WyGO is committed to Campus-Carry in Wyoming and we are actively working to fix it.

    If you want to help, join WyGO
    http://wyominggunowners.org/join/

    Also join Students for Concealed Carry on Campus
    http://concealedcampus.org/




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    Below a response from UW Police to a student:

    Dear Ms. XXXX:
    I have received your communication regarding your ability to carry a concealed weapon on campus. Assuming you intended your email as a request, your request is denied. Wyoming law and UW Regulations prohibit this activity. I urge you to review UW Reg 178 3(g) (ix) which you will find at http://www.uwyo.edu/generalcounsel/.

    Under the provisions of UW Reg. 178, you are required to have written consent to carry a concealed weapon on campus. The University's approach is to decline permission absent a reason based on safety. Failure to comply with the Regulation will subject you to sanctions including student discipline, a prohibition from being on campus and sanctions under Wyoming law.

    For your convenience, I am providing you with the language contained in UW Reg. 178 3(g) (ix) below.
    Sincerely,
    Michael J. Samp

    UW Regulation 178
    (ix) No dangerous weapon may be stored or carried in or upon University facilities. “Dangerous weapon” means any firearm, ammunition, explosives, martial arts weapons including stars, swords, nunchucks, clubs etc. Dangerous weapons also include those listed in the University’s Student’s Rights and Responsibilities for Residence Halls and Dining Services. Any person carrying a dangerous weapon in or upon any University facility is required to relinquish the weapon to the UW Police Department voluntarily or upon request. The weapon will be returned when the person leaves University facilities, unless the UW Police Department determines that the weapon should be retained in an investigation. If a person carrying a dangerous weapon refuses to relinquish the weapon, the person shall be denied access to University facilities. Nothing in this paragraph prevents the carrying of weapons (1) by authorized Peace Officers as defined and authorized by Wyoming Statutes, (2) by individuals directly transporting weapons to and from the weapons storage facility and off University facilities, or (3) pursuant to official University business and University approved activities, including activities conducted by ROTC cadets under the direct and immediate supervision of ROTC faculty members, activities conducted by registered student organizations with the explicit permission of the Vice President of Student Affairs, and other University activities carrying explicit permission of the responsible vice president. University students, faculty, and staff may be subject to disciplinary action for violation of this paragraph. All persons violating this paragraph may be subject to sanctions in accordance with Wyoming law.






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