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    ** spell checked & revised 1/14**

    Most of us have not even noticed that a subtle yet well though out devious & evil public conditioning & PR movement has be advanced upon us and into our minds to were we have been conditioned / changed to accept the very thing that we are overtly moving to stop.

    SHORT VERSION:
    For those of you who don't like to read much just go to this video and watch a top KGB agent who helped start the de-moralization of America war on us where by they introduced anti Christian anti goodness perverted counter ideals to the young people in our society : young people who see the hypocracy of those who profess Christianity but do not practice it fr real. The communists saw they we had already stated to fail to be good internaly ( Kennedy assasination / take over-Martnin Luthoer King etc...) and so after being here already impanted in Hollywood and other parts of the country they saw the openning and took advantage of our own lack of true goodness in order to start a counter revolution- counter culter & out right generational rebellion culminating in the 60's & 70's

    This is psycoligical warfare at its best and most scientific (evil)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVZ4Lkm6JQw

    Note: They Communists-Socalist-Athiest are "Winning", we are LOOSING !!!

    The Communists published a book for there opperatives called the Psyco-Political handbook , written in 1930. ( If You want one I will try and get one for You )
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    LONG VERSION:
    Key Words: This is a list of words taken out of context and used to substitute or mask reality. Changing the meannig of words is designed to condition you to accept a false reality. Re-designed definitions are pushed to advance an agenda to condition you to accept it in place of right or reality.

    Examples for Gun & 2nd Amendment are Permit......Permitted......Allowed......Licensed.. ...Granted

    Some others are Reasonable......Safe........Sane.....Peace...and Peaceful.

    Others are Cowboy....Testosterone and the word "Nut".


    Here are some "change words" used in the early 70's to win the war against Christianity and goodness in the movement to de-moralize you ( lower you morality ) to condition you to accept homosexuality as normal.

    The word Gay & Diversity....both of these where designed to condition you to sub-consciously accept them a well established reference to a subversive group of persons with mental-moral illness as if they were normal, moral, happy, well adjusted members of society. Once you accept the words then the deeds and actions will be established and open a door into your mind to were you cannot resist the new reality , you will submit to a new morality and social-political movement designed to replace the foundatons established by our for Fathers.

    This is not meant to happen in 5 or 10 years so you will be "over written" in 15 , 20 , 30, 40 or more years. This conditioning is contemporary & generational


    If you do not submit consciously this is not a problem because your lack of awareness will allow you to be conditioned to submit sub-consciously .

    Going back to the 2nd Amendment, for many many years you have been "conditioned" to accept / submit to being "permitted" & given "permission" to assert you rights.

    You are being assaulted by an oxymoron, and will be consistently assaulted by illogical until You either submit or rebel in hate filled anger to the twisted logic and un-morality of it all.


    Right now as it stands most of You have been changed sub-consciously to accept a new paradyme all the while thinking that you are at the forefront of social civil rights awareness.




    "Social conditioning works by social conditioning" !!!!


    There are 2 ways to loose the 2nd Amendment: Those of you who are prone to doubt, tinged with fear of social isolation and rejection for standing out & up for *what is right ( *the 2nd Amendment ) are already pre-conditioned and "de-tuned" ( neutered) to accept your fate by license-legislation-fiat-rules-confiscation-laws- and ban.

    You are what is called a "mailable conformist".

    "They", they make you doubt by intimidating you with words such as Gun Nuts.....or you need "Permission" and you fear harassment or arrest so you freeze and loose faith in what you know is right in your heart and therefor you cannot stand up against them.

    Your type do not need to carry guns anyways because evil criminals who do NOT doubt, they know you will doubt what you need to do and hesitate due to your "conditioning" and that gives them 1 or even 2 seconds to charge you and take your gun and shoot you will it !!!


    The 2nd way to submit is to submit the rebels, you rebellious types are not prone to dubt, but you are prone to anger and thus are easy to marginalize thought your anger.

    Every man who has had a woman in his life who twists the truth and turns logic into illogic knows how easy it is to "fly off the handle" because you sense of what is right and logical is being tortured & turned upside down.

    You rebels are the 1st to break out into the open and be "picked off" by the masses.


    The un-reasonable laws and crooked evil politicians such as Shumer, Feinstein Reed. etc.....can push you into being an "anarchist".


    We rebels, we are needed people but without objectivity we are easy to get ride of because we loose objectivity and blindly rebel with anger and set ourselves up to be jailed or marginalized and thus our while movement is shot down.

    Prisons are full of good men gone bad , men who see what is wrong but who fell to hate, men who do not know how to deal with un-justness and who do not know how to rebel in a right & constructive way.




    We become the "Hater who hates the haters" We fall to blind rage resentment & anger at the commies the socialists, the anti Christians, the drug dealers, the crooked politicians etc.... and we become easy to ether be controlled or conditioned to being driven out into the open and show cased as hate filled Nazi's when that is the farthest thing from the truth.



    If You always say the word Gay instead of homosexual, that is a key indicator that you have sub-consciously accepted what you are against. This is very important You MUST be conscious of every single word you use and the spirit behind the words that people use.

    You may feel uncomfortable saying Gay, but don't want to be singled out for saying homosexual, if so You still have you inner common sense in tact , but don't speak out but the conditioning is still working on You

    You MUST become aware , aware of the "intent" of people behind there words.

    Street criminals know how to wordlessly spot the week ones. Car dealers do to.

    Criminals will come up to you and test you, they speak nice friendly yet fake words with a smile and say things like "hey got the time" or "do you have any spare change"?, but your inner intuition tells you they are evil. so WHY doubt what you know inside your heart ? Tell them to 'BACK OFF" while putting Your hand on your gun and get ready to



    Politicians know how to intimidate you into submission, isn't that why you hate the Republicans, because they are so pathetic & give into the intimidating Democrats ?

    Republicans are like weak fathers and Democrats are like bitch wives who dominate the home and you see this in every aspect of society.

    So you can submit or rebel and you will LOOSE, the ONLY way is thru practicing listening to your common sense ( Gods silent word ) i.e intuition , what you know is right deep inside you.

    Stop listening to words and listen to "intent" behind the words.

    Become aware of the way words have made you prey to social conditioning and the ugly spirit behind words that tries to open you up ( remember the word "Open Minded" ) the ugly spirit that tries to get you to allow it in as it is inside un-moral people thus come in behind the words to change your *conscious based ( Christian ) based free society, and thus nulify Your 2nd Amendment.

    Carry your gun openly, the homosexuals & lesbians march flaunt and intimidate
    ( condition you ) to give in to there non-rights openly. and change the words you use to describe them or thru the unse of propaganda they shut you down all together.

    Your right to carry and bear arms is already established beforee" you were born and put into paper to remind you of its inalienable existence visa vi God, but its still just a peace of paper. Flesh & Blood ( You) must assert it and the good spirit that allowed ( Creator who endowed You ) to have it in the 1st place.







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    I went to the Holocaust Museum in DC yesterday for the first time. Aside from learning the history of what happened and all of the horrible atrocities committed against people not considered true Germans I wanted to see how history may or may not be repeating itself. Nationalism was such a success because the German government was so good at conditioning their people. The Natzis concentrated much of their time indoctrinating their youth in order to create a new generation of mindless people. It was also a way for the German government to reach the elder generations who they were not able to "educate". They told their youth to turn on their parents and teachers if necessary but to always be loyal to the nationalist movement.

    Books that did not agree with the nationalist movement were confiscated and burned. Radio stations were forced to be more fair to the government. Guns were banned and confiscated. Non-aryans were labeled and demeaned. Anyone that stood up for them were quickly demeaned and stripped of their aryan status.

    Words...from printed in the press, on the radio, used by Hitler, taught by teachers or police were very instrumental in how non-aryans were perceived and treated.

    The museum was very educational. When viewed by comparison to today's current events it made it very interesting. History does repeat itself. Although we may never see nationalism to the extent that we did with Germany....we do see many of the same tactics taking place. From censorship, gun bans, youth indoctrination, subliminal language and fear tactics. Our current Democrat and even Republican officials have learned a lot from Hitler and his regime. It's just too bad that they didn't learn to AVOID Hitlers tactics. Instead they have learned to use them for political advantage. And now our country is in a government induced comatose and our people have become willing slaves to government desire. Sad but true.

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    What do imaginary deities and bigoted ignorance directed towards gays have to do with gun rights?

    What a useless post.

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    marshaul wrote:
    What do imaginary deities and bigoted ignorance directed towards gays have to do with gun rights?

    What a useless post.
    They were examples to illustrate how words are used in today's society to condition you to perceive things a specific way. I think the topic at hand is very important and very applicable to our gun rights. The words chosen in the media and by our elected officials are chosen specifically to give a specific perception of guns themselves. This tactic is used in many areas not limited to gay rights, religion and guns.

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    marshaul wrote:
    What do imaginary deities and bigoted ignorance directed towards gays have to do with gun rights?

    What a useless post.
    I submit that you may be missing the point. While OP does revert to another issue consistently throughout, the parallel he is drawing does become more clear. I can remember a couple things from childhood and early adult years.

    When I was a kid, I can remember those after school movies and remember one vividly because it dealt with a teen girl who had sex, and wanted to abort but was prohibited by law. shehad an unlicensed <- hmm... conditioning?medical impostor perform the act and it killed her. the ending made it clear that because the evil state made it difficult for the teen to get an abortion she died. My thought was, yeah, so did the kid. That's the first show I can remember in which I knew I was being manipulated by folks who wanted me to think a certain way.

    There are lots of media terms in play today to do exactly the same thing. "gun toting" or "Packing heat". This is blatant hyperbolebut with the intended purpose of minimizing or stigmatizing the behavior described. In this case, carrying a gun to protect yourself &your family. You do need to be aware of these demeaning attacks on our rights and fight them.

    Write letters to the editor and do it often. Correct their propaganda. Volume of fire is important. If there's only 3 people in the entire readership of the paper thatbothers to write in then they will continue toattack us. If however there's 1500 angry letters to the editor telling a reporter to shove his hyperbole up his *** for attacking folks who wantto be able to 'protect their families & loved ones' not 'pack heat'. Well, then that's what starts to sway opinion.

    I think the OP made some salient pointsand we should beon the look outfor this kind of stuff.



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    I pray that 'Steve in Ashland' leaps to my defense when next I'm accused of being intolerant of mis-use of words.

    "U 2 B" is not even 'language' is it?

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    marshaul wrote:
    What do imaginary deities and bigoted ignorance directed towards gays have to do with gun rights?

    What a useless post.



    For once I'm going to lol WITH you instead of at you. I only read to the part about the "war against Christianity" and then I realized that the comparison drawn would be worthless. We all know Christians on the model for morality...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusade

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inquisition

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indulgence



    Anti's don't need manipulation or words. All they have to do is come to this board and link the "felons' rights" thread to CNN. :quirky


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    Very Interesting, keep the posts comming.












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    I edited this post because I alone think its not productive.

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    speak for your presumptuous self. You use the word "we" rather freely there Steve. Maybe you respond blindly in anger and see in yourself the faults and shortcomings about which you rant, but until you knoweach of uspersonally what makes you think it is perfectly acceptable to insultall of us by expecting, without proof, that we are prone to the same shortcomings?????????

    Perhaps as you act illogically/irrationally as a matter of course when dealing with an injustice, but it is an affront to us for you to assume we all follow the same misguided course of action which you confess is your wont to do.

    Don't insult the rest of us by assuming that we possess those character flaws to the same degree to which you confess that they are found in you. This post is a good example of why the practice of psychology should be left to professionals and by standers shouldn't take cheap shots at the men/women in the trenches getting the job done.

    Only two ways to lose the second amendment are there Steve??? Just because that all you can think of doesn't mean that's all there is. Here’s one: people sitting ontheir lazy butts doing nothing. There's in all likelyhood more than one other way, hence more that two...........

    What an insulting bunch of hokum.



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    Now see here, Poindexter. You have an absolute and sacred right to poop out of your mouth in public because we all have an absolute and sacred right to keep and bear arms. But it seems to me that you might just think you were on the National Stormfront website instead of this one. Almost no one here WANTS a national revolution or a civil war to keep gun rights, let alone to promogulate some society based on the preservation of our precious bodily fluids or whatever you are getting at.

    Frankly you and your rambling WTF post remind me of the Nazi death row convict who wanted to change his name to "Hi Hitler" because he thought that was what the Nazis said in their classic salute.

    You are of course correct that the antis use subtle applications of the English language to condition people to their worldview. Just FYI that has been standard practice with charlaitans of all languages and cultures since the invention of human speech.

    Just so you know, you have managed to insult probably 2/3 or more of the membership of this forum in one way or another and some of us in multiple ways. Now go back to the Stormfront site and leave us alone. Please.

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    Despite using references that might not fit some folks ideals.. the idea of using terms to condition is age old.. I have been typing as fast as I can all morning to the CNN crew about the Rocky Houston case. Not having all the facts, I have refrained from commenting on the case itself. Instead I have been defending firearms in general. They keep throwing around 'assault weapon', I have been e-mailing non-stop to try and correct their usage and educate them on the differences in classes of weapons and the fact that if you ban all firearms, we will use swords.. ban those we will use sticks and rocks.. humans will kill humans no matter what level of technology exists. To this day some resort to the age old weapons.. the hands.. we must ban hands!

    (Assault hands?!)

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    could you learn the difference between

    1. there

    2. their

    3. they're



    faster than you could turn a Christian into a Nazi? Curious minds want to know.

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    SteveInAshand wrote:
    SNIP Most of us have not even noticed that a subtle yet well though out devious & evil public conditioning & PR movement has be advanced upon us and into our minds to were we have been conditioned / changed to accept the very thing that we are overtly moving to stop.
    I wouldn't assign too much importance to it.

    Its just spin. Since the dawn of time, people have been spinning.

    Husband's spin their wives. Wives spin their husbands. Children spin their parents. Salesman spin their customers.

    Yes, learn the words. Be able to spot them andclarify what they are covering.

    But, don't get toowrapped up in it. Just recognize it and clarify.
    I'll make you an offer: I will argue and fight for all of your rights, if you will do the same for me. That is the only way freedom can work. We have to respect all rights, all the time--and strive to win the rights of the other guy as much as for ourselves.

    If I am equal to another, how can I legitimately govern him without his express individual consent?

    There is no human being on earth I hate so much I would actually vote to inflict government upon him.

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    marshaul wrote:
    What do imaginary deities and bigoted ignorance directed towards gays have to do with gun rights?

    What a useless post.
    +10

    I think the correct phrase is "foil slipped off".

    There is useful information in that post, but it is buried in a load of rabid anger and possibly paranoia. What is most telling is the anger that the OP has towards people who use words and ideas repeated to advance a cause.

    It's called.... drumroll please..... MARKETING!

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    Fnord Words can be used Fnord to help control the masses.

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    That was quite a rant. It was going good at first. I read down to the mention of Rush Limbaugh, at which point you lost me. Then I started reading backwards, line-by-line from the bottom. I still hadn't finished the whole thing so I started skipping around, but realized that even when read in order, nothing past Rush makes sense and you need a hammer to the head for wasting electricity listening to him.

    But I agree about the Christians thing and applaud you for going against the mainstream and taking the Bible/Jesus' teaching like it was meant to be taken, not as modern Christianity takes it. So I guess we'll leave it at that for now. I'll see you in another thread when the ethics stuff comes up again.

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    Dam foil cap slipped off again, anyone have any Reynold Wrap ? lol










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    The reason they "sit on there lazy butts" is no one cares or has the patients ( except me and a few others) to help broken and demoralized people over to our brave cause.

    They are on the sidelines mainly because they have been intimidated into silence.

    You have no answers or do you ?

    Walking around with a gun on my hip is the easy part, You know that its easy for You and war vets to do this, but helping other people who are not as brave as You, help them to be brave and fearless in the face of defamation and intimidation is the hard part.



    The "we" is those of us who love or rights, so We come in many forms, rebels, conformists, homosexuals and yes loud mouths like Me, that who is "We".

    I have a few "answers" and some "help".

    Absent all my blathering & babbling rants here , which makes up only about 1% of my time, the rest is spent in productive activism and paying the bills like We & You do , lol.

    If you read closer my friend I have answers to help those who are on the sideline, those who are full of mental doubt and fear which translates into in-action.

    I personally have taught many cowardly beaten down shy men , women & kids to overcome there inner demons and to assert there God given and brave Soldier's blood shed rights to Keep & Bear.

    I actively help those who are on the sidelines, ( on there butts) not so much how to shoot as Clint Smith is much better at that, but how NOT not be intimidated by doubt and how to live life as if you own it, and the 1st & 2nd Amendment are You shield of armor.

    Respectfully
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    I am afraid I am not smart enough to know what the "Storm front" site or movement is ?
    village.

    P.S. Poindexter, I loved that guy, thanks for the compliment.









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    SteveInAshand wrote:
    I edited this post because I alone think its not productive.
    Wow. I was reading that huge post, then went to quote it and it turned into one line.

    I was going to suggest you consider shortening up your thoughts into 1 or 2 paragraphs instead of 2 or 3 scrolling pages of typing, but looks like you did even better than that.

    I, for one, value differing opinions, and I think I get the point of your OP. However, to make it more interesting to discuss, you might think about putting smaller chunks of your thoughts out there instead of a novel at a time. Discussion is more fun if you don't try to do all the discussing right off the bat

    ...Yes, I too have a hard time slimming down my posts, but I try...
    ...Orygunner...

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    Yes thank You, sorry but I do tend to just "let it fly" in a stream of consciousness type of mode.

    And I am sorry for being so in your face "opinionated", but not sorry for my moral views, tin foil hat and all, lol.

    Oh Springfield OR, hey didn't I see Your ID on the High Road, Saiga 12 or AR15 sites ?

    Take care.

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    sv_libertarian wrote:
    marshaul wrote:
    What do imaginary deities and bigoted ignorance directed towards gays have to do with gun rights?

    What a useless post.
    +10

    I think the correct phrase is "foil slipped off".

    There is useful information in that post, but it is buried in a load of rabid anger and possibly paranoia. What is most telling is the anger that the OP has towards people who use words and ideas repeated to advance a cause.

    It's called.... drumroll please..... MARKETING!
    It's called......Indoctrination. But who cares? Lets focus on the differing opinions of religion and homosexual rights....OH! And grammar.

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    CLASS !!! "tap" "tap" "tap" come to order please.

    ( Teacher tapping a pencil on His desk )

    Now, instead of dumping on Steve for lack of iambic pentameter, run on sentence structure, butchering 1st person, possessive pronoun and adjective possession
    ( You boy's in the back row pay attention )


    So, *sigh, Honorable war vet's, real men & women, boys girls, itinerant English teachers, and wandering dispossessed minstrels of high school level defamation, lonely shut in Republican bloggers, social misfits living in mountain cabin's, divorced and now full time cyber bloggers , Micheal Savage Nation, and you older Alzheimer's victims: welcome to my opinion.


    Since this is the General Discussion section and I am the "OP" doing OC in OR with a CCP and test clean of any STD / VD and just got back from Micky D's in my BVD's , now back on my p.c not afraid to be non PC with a cup of green T,lol.

    I shal resume my rant, this time "high brow"

    I have taken the dual risk of being gramer <----- is that spelled right lol ) bashed.

    Bashed for a stream of contemporaneous thoughts, secondary to spell check, and taken to task for any and everything I say that is non PC (homosexual gun toter's not withstanding )


    NEW SUBJECT:

    Risk # 3: Lets take a peek at how the 2nd Amendment can be used against You. if interpreted wrongly by anti's, and how does God fit into the 2nd Amendment.


    The words "A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state,"

    Contrary to the interpretations of the anti's, with a PHD on my side in this explanation does this constitute a present participle, rather than a clause.

    :shock: whah huh ?



    HELP DESK: It is used as an adjective, modifying "militia," which is followed by the main clause of the sentence (subject "the right," verb "shall"), and so the right to keep and bear arms is asserted as essential for maintaining a militia.

    Right or Wrong ?

    Pre Heller vs DC / SURVEY SAY'S: The sentence above does not restrict the right to keep and bear arms, nor does it state or imply possession of the right elsewhere or by others than the people; it simply makes a positive statement with respect to a right of the people.
    :quirky dig that semi colon, it's a beauty lol.



    GOD:
    The right ( 2nd ) is not granted by the amendment standing alone; its existence / pre-existance is assumed.

    The preexistnace is presumed to be there much as we hold this truth as all the others penned at the same time to be self evident , and as such our "Creator" (not sperm donor) has pronounced it/ them inalienable.

    The thrust of the sentence is that the right shall be preserved inviolate (religious and sacrid) for the sake of ensuring a militia.


    Ok Mr smarty pants Poindexter conservative gun nut tin foil hat wearing word smith-ie, so were is your well regulated militia pal ? :X


    Glad You asked, so does a militia have to exist in order to keep & bear arm's ?

    A: Like a null contract that does not bind one to the other, no such condition is expressed or implied.

    The right to keep and bear arms is not said by the amendment to depend on the existence of a militia.

    No condition is stated. No condition is implied as to the relation of the right to keep and bear arms and to the necessity of a well-regulated militia as requisite to the security of the people or of a free state.

    The phrase " A well regulated Milita" means "subject to regulations of a superior authority" but not the government nor the authority or governance of said government. This is in direct accordance with the desire of the writers ( Founding Fathers) for civilian control over the military.

    Some say that "well regulated" historically means "well equipped" to this I have no argument because if substituted it would still not deny the fact of the inalienability of the right to keep, bear and defend oneself with arm's, but enhance it to mean many & better arm's. ( Not to be confused with Regulators a historic southern militia.)

    What say You, You in the back row shooing verbal spit wad's ????

    Who Me :what:what huhhhh













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    This confusion about the so-called "regualtion Clause" is dealt with brilliantly here:

    http://www.anesi.com/ablative.htm

    Look it up.

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