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Thread: Partial Concealment on Open Carry without CPL

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    Is there anything in the MCL that states partial concealment is deemed illegal? I was always told for open carry that the pistol must be 100% in plain view (a holster carry is legal) but the pistol could not be tucked in the waist of your pants, even if the handle was in plain view.

    Can anyone better my knowledge on this, and maybe point me to an MCL that states this clearer?

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    MCL does not, to my knowledge define "concealed", AG opinion addressed it. DO NOT OC with an IWB, without a CPL. see this thread. I believe the link to the AG opinion is in this thread as well.
    http://opencarry.mywowbb.com/forum30/20101.html

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    That is the question of the moment. Until there is case law, it appears that the definition of what you propose could be considered concealed, although many would argue it is able to be viewed and therefore "open carry" XD-40's advice is very prudent until the matter is resolved with definitive case law, as there is little in the MCL to help (we do know that carry in vehicle IS considered concealed) Getting charged & convicted of a felony really is no fun
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    Go by a SERPA OWB, they're cheap.

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    dougwg wrote:
    Go by a SERPA OWB, they're cheap.
    I wish they made them for my main carry guns :X

    Bronson
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    silent_killer wrote:
    Is there anything in the MCL that states partial concealment is deemed illegal? I was always told for open carry that the pistol must be 100% in plain view (a holster carry is legal) but the pistol could not be tucked in the waist of your pants, even if the handle was in plain view.

    Can anyone better my knowledge on this, and maybe point me to an MCL that states this clearer?

    Thanks
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    Bronson wrote:
    dougwg wrote:
    Go by a SERPA OWB, they're cheap.
    I wish they made them for my main carry guns :X

    Bronson
    Which gun is that?

    Custom.45acp

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    custom.45acp wrote:
    Bronson wrote:
    I wish they made them for my main carry guns :X

    Bronson
    Which gun is that?

    Custom.45acp
    Kahr CW40 & Bersa Thunder .380.

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    I can get you a great leather holster for the CW40 for not much more than a serpa.


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    discerningshootist wrote:
    I can get you a great leather holster for the CW40 for not much more than a serpa.
    Thanks, but I'm set on the leather. I've got a nice concealment holster (no retention strap)that I bought and an OC holster (with retention strap) that I made. Iwas just hoping they'd make a Serpa because I do like their retention system better than a strap.

    Thanks again though, and thanks for supportingthe causeand Michigan craftsmen with your store. When I get up that way to visit my dad this summer I'll try to stop in.

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    My pleasure. In tough times like these, we all have to pull together.

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    great idea......hrmmmmm

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