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Can you OC in national parks now?

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As the title says can you OC in national parks now? I haven't been following the bill but am assuming you can since above there is a link of pictures of the first people carrying on a national park. What about concealed carrying can you do that?

What about sate parks? What would Skyline drive be considered? Can you carry there?
 
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Hometheaterman,

Here is a link with good info summarizing the National Park issue.

http://www.vcdl.org/letters/NPS_Firearms.pdf

In VA, CC in VA State Parks is permitted provided you have a CHP from VA; OC is notpermitted.

Note that this info is readily available from the Virginia Citizens Defense League.A very worthwhile organization that represents our rights as gun owners and enthusiasts in VA.

Hope this helps.
 
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hometheaterman wrote:
As the title says can you OC in national parks now? I haven't been following the bill but am assuming you can since above there is a link of pictures of the first people carrying on a national park. What about concealed carrying can you do that?

What about sate parks? What would Skyline drive be considered? Can you carry there?
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It would help if you had your location listed. As answered before in you cannot OC in National Parks or wildlife refuges. If the state you are in allows CC in state parks and you have a valid CC or CC permit recognized by that state,then you can CC in the parks and refuges. Also as pointed out, if the state does not require a permit to CC and they allow CC in state parks, then you are good.(Not sure if this applies to everyone in Alaska or Vermontor just the residents of the state.)
 
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sccrref wrote:
hometheaterman wrote:
As the title says can you OC in national parks now? I haven't been following the bill but am assuming you can since above there is a link of pictures of the first people carrying on a national park. What about concealed carrying can you do that?

What about sate parks? What would Skyline drive be considered? Can you carry there?
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It would help if you had your location listed. As answered before in you cannot OC in National Parks or wildlife refuges. If the state you are in allows CC in state parks and you have a valid CC or CC permit recognized by that state,then you can CC in the parks and refuges. Also as pointed out, if the state does not require a permit to CC and they allow CC in state parks, then you are good.(Not sure if this applies to everyone in Alaska or Vermontor just the residents of the state.)
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Better check that again. CC is permitted if individual has CC Permit. Has nothing to do with state parks. (That was an earlier version)
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brboyer wrote:
sccrref wrote:
hometheaterman wrote:
As the title says can you OC in national parks now? I haven't been following the bill but am assuming you can since above there is a link of pictures of the first people carrying on a national park. What about concealed carrying can you do that?

What about sate parks? What would Skyline drive be considered? Can you carry there?
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It would help if you had your location listed. As answered before in you cannot OC in National Parks or wildlife refuges. If the state you are in allows CC in state parks and you have a valid CC or CC permit recognized by that state,then you can CC in the parks and refuges. Also as pointed out, if the state does not require a permit to CC and they allow CC in state parks, then you are good.(Not sure if this applies to everyone in Alaska or Vermontor just the residents of the state.)
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Better check that again. CC is permitted if individual has CC Permit. Has nothing to do with state parks. (That was an earlier version)
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This is the last one I am aware of. http://www.doi.gov/news/08_News_Releases/120508.htmlIt states specifically that it is tied to what the state allows in the state parks. Please provide a cite for the version you recall.
 
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sccrref wrote:
brboyer wrote:
sccrref wrote:
hometheaterman wrote:
As the title says can you OC in national parks now? I haven't been following the bill but am assuming you can since above there is a link of pictures of the first people carrying on a national park. What about concealed carrying can you do that?

What about sate parks? What would Skyline drive be considered? Can you carry there?
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It would help if you had your location listed. As answered before in you cannot OC in National Parks or wildlife refuges. If the state you are in allows CC in state parks and you have a valid CC or CC permit recognized by that state,then you can CC in the parks and refuges. Also as pointed out, if the state does not require a permit to CC and they allow CC in state parks, then you are good.(Not sure if this applies to everyone in Alaska or Vermontor just the residents of the state.)
Click to expand...
Better check that again. CC is permitted if individual has CC Permit. Has nothing to do with state parks. (That was an earlier version)
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
This is the last one I am aware of. http://www.doi.gov/news/08_News_Releases/120508.htmlIt states specifically that it is tied to what the state allows in the state parks. Please provide a cite for the version you recall.
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You may want to re-read it:

The final rule, which updates existing regulations, would allow an individual to carry a concealed weapon in national parks and wildlife refuges if, and only if, the individual is authorized to carry a concealed weapon under state law in the state in which the national park or refuge is located.
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Here is the final rule summary:

http://www.interior.gov/issues/Final%20Rule.pdf

And the actual regulation:

http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/text-idx?c=ecfr&sid=754f8afb9ea347bf397df0960056ce60&rgn=div8&view=text&node=36:1.0.1.1.2.0.1.4&idno=36



Important part:

(h) Notwithstanding any other provision in this Chapter, a person may possess, carry, and transport concealed, loaded, and operable firearms within a national park area in accordance with the laws of the state in which the national park area, or that portion thereof, is located, except as otherwise prohibited by applicable Federal law.
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The reference to "similar state lands" was removed from the final rule. It was thought to be confusing and ambiguous at best. Obviously, a smart move.

As long as you have a CHP issued from the state in which the National Park or refuge is located, you may CC. You may also CC in National Parks and refuges located in other states so long as that state accepts your "home state" CHP through reciprocity or other similar recognition.

Note that you still can't CC in federal facilities/buildings. This includes visitor centers located in National Parks and refuges.
 
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CoahHines wrote:
The reference to "similar state lands" was removed from the final rule. It was thought to be confusing and ambiguous at best. Obviously, a smart move.

As long as you have a CHP issued from the state in which the National Park or refuge is located, you may CC. You may also CC in National Parks and refuges located in other states so long as that state accepts your "home state" CHP through reciprocity or other similar recognition.

Note that you still can't CC in federal facilities/buildings. This includes visitor centers located in National Parks and refuges.
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Actually, if you are authorized by state law (a CHP is not required necessarily), you're good. Think Alaska, no permits required to CC anywhere in the state, but you can still carry in National Parks.
 
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