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    Here are the gun bills, and any other bills that affect your gun rights, that have been introduced as of 1/14/09:

    VCDL STRONGLY SUPPORTS (9)

    HB 1587 - Delegate Marshall - opts Virginia out of Real ID (better known as Dangerous ID)

    HB 1655 - Delegate Carrico - Puts teeth in preemption (put in for VCDL)

    HB 1656 - Delegate Marshal - Allows full-time faculty members with CHP to carry in universities

    HB 1734 - Delegate Pogge - Cleanup: CHP applications can be mailed in, denial reason must be specified, simplifies renewals, more... (put in for VCDL)

    HB 1748 - Delegate Pogge - Cleanup: specifies that once you have been issued a CHP, there is to be no fingerprints required on renewal, even if the old permit has already expired (put in for VCDL)

    HB 1821 - Delegate Johnson - restaurant ban repeal. This bill is similar to the bill that was vetoed last year. Has some issues that we will try to fix.

    HB 1822 - Delegate Johnson - allows CHP holders to carry on K-12 school property

    HB 1851 - Delegate Lingamfelter - exempts active duty military from One Handgun a Month (put in for VCDL)

    SB 1035 - Senator Hanger - restaurant ban repeal. This bill is similar to the bill that was vetoed last year. Has some issues that we will try to fix.


    VCDL SUPPORTS (5)

    HB 1813 - Delegate Morrissey - allows for simplified restoration of rights after 8 years of clean record. Has an exception for misdemeanor domestic violence, which VCDL will oppose.

    HB 2282 - Delegate Bowling - allows deer to be hunted with a .223 or a .22-50 rifle (currently .22 is disallowed for deer hunting).

    SB 841 - Senator Cuccinelli - opts Virginia out of Real ID - not as strong as HB 1587 by Bob Marshall.

    SB 877 - Senator Martin - allows retired officers from other states to be able to carry concealed in Virginia

    SB 1289 - Senator McEachin - allows for simplified restoration of rights after 5 years of clean record. Has an exception for misdemeanor domestic violence, which VCDL will oppose.


    VCDL STRONGLY OPPOSES (11)

    HB 1338 - Delegate Barlow - Makes brandishing a **felony**

    HB 1741 - Delegate Pogge - makes possession of a handgun or "assault weapon" by someone under the age of 18 a felony ***This bill was not drafted properly and Delegate Pogge said it will be fixed so that only if the person under 17 can be shown to have evil intent will the law apply. Until the bill can be fixed we will strongly oppose the current wording ***

    HB 1910 - Delegate BaCote - allows guns to be complete banned in a library

    HB 2004 - Delegate Crockett-Stark - makes possession of a silencer a class 6 FELONY. It does provide an affirmative defense that you registered it with the Feds. But who wants to be arrested for mere possession and then have to prove their innocence in court?

    HB 2227 - Delegate Marsden - treats air guns that can expel a projectile at more than 250 feet per second as a weapon that can't be concealed. Exactly how is the speed going to be measured by the citizen or the police?

    HB 2318 - Delegate Morrissey - requires anyone selling three or more firearms at a gun show without a table or who has a table at a gun show and has even one gun to be an FFL.

    HB 2481 - Delegate Ward - requires change of address notification to be provided to the state police for machine gun owners. We need to get rid of the expensive state machine gun registration scheme we have, not make it more complicated. The feds already maintain the machine gun database.

    SB 832 - Senator Locke - allows localities to ban guns in any building where an official government meeting is being held.

    SB 1046 - Senator Miller - enables Real ID in Virginia

    SB 1053 - Senator Whipple - allows localities to ban guns in any government buildings and grounds.

    SB 1257 - Senator Marsh - requires any private sales at gun shows go through a background check. Same bill he had last year.


    VCDL OPPOSES (5)

    HB 2136 - Delegate Miller - allows police to be able to arrest someone for a class 1 or 2 misdemeanor at will. Same bill as before - third year.

    HB 2144 - Delegate Nutter - blocks the state police from giving out CHP holder information, but does NOT block courts from doing the same. We NEED to close off both sources.

    SB 529 - Senator Houck - blocks the state police from giving out CHP holder information, but does NOT block courts from doing the same. We NEED to close off both sources.

    SB 1166 - Senator Watkins - raises fee for background check on a firearm from $2 to $5. We need to get rid of the fee altogether, not raise it. On the positive side, the bill does make the purchase form unavailable to the public, which is good.

    SB 1254 - Senator Marsh - Misc CHP: eliminates taking an internet based training course for a CHP, expands a disqualification for public drunkenness to include such an offense in any other state, requires reciprocal permits be carried with a photo id (not needed for many such permits, which already have a photo on them), more...


    VCDL IS NEUTRAL (2)

    HB 2042 - Delegate Gear - allows officers of the State Lottery Department to be able to purchase their handguns on retirement.

    HB 2178 - Delegate E.T. Scott - prohibits convicted felons from possessing ammunition

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    fairfax1 wrote:
    SB 1254 - Senator Marsh - Misc CHP: eliminates taking an internet based training course for a CHP, expands a disqualification for public drunkenness to include such an offense in any other state, requires reciprocal permits be carried with a photo id (not needed for many such permits, which already have a photo on them), more...
    One problem with this one is that despite the fact that many out of state permits have photos, this law would still require you to carry a photo ID issued by your own state of residence.

    A person carrying a concealed handgun in the Commonwealth with a permit from a reciprocal state shall have such permit on his person at all times when he is carrying a concealed handgun. The person shall display the permit and a photo-identification issued by a government agency of his state of residence or by the United States Department of Defense or United States State Department (passport) upon demand by a law-enforcement officer.

    I'm not sure who writes the summaries for these laws, but this one is incorrect. The summary states that the law applies to nonresidents who use out of state permits in Virginia, but the wording of the bill simply states "a person", no reference to resident or nonresident applicability.

    This is a poorly written bill for several reasons, not the least of which being that it is trying to change several completely unrelated things about CHPs in general. This portion I've mentioned here is unnecessary since reciprocal permits function just as Virginia CHPs, which already have the explicit requirement to be carried on your person, along with a photo ID at any time you are carrying a concealed handgun.

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    Hmm.... No student college carry bill this year?

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    Hmm.... No student college carry bill this year?
    I noticed that too, I hope it don't get skipped this session.

    I find it very ironic that I'm trusted enough to carry in the VA general assembly but can get expelled for stepping foot inside Patriot Circle. :?

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    fairfax1 wrote:
    mercutio545 wrote:
    Hmm.... No student college carry bill this year?
    I noticed that too, I hope it don't get skipped this session.

    I find it very ironic that I'm trusted enough to carry in the VA general assembly but can get expelled for stepping foot inside Patriot Circle. :?
    And even more ironic that you can carry at most other colleges where you are not enrolled. Strange potential price for an education.

    Our legislators need to be reminded of this - that you run the risk of expulsion for performing a legal act that is not denied you except at the school you attend.

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    Crazy how after Luby's TX got it right and opened up carry.

    But VA has Virginia Tech and we want to take away more right instead of letting people protect themselves.

    Poor students are second class citizens. Pay $20,000 a year and treated like common trash.

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    Emails of those that introduced bills listed above as opposed.

    From the *strongly oppose* list

    Delegate Barlow, William K
    DelWBarlow@house.virginia.gov

    Delegate Brenda Pogge
    DelBPogge@house.state.va.us


    Delegate Mamye E. BaCote
    DelMBaCote@house.virginia.gov

    Delegate Crockett-Stark
    DelACrockett-Stark@house.virginia.gov

    Email Delegate Marsden
    DelDMarsden@house.virginia.gov

    Delegate Morrissey
    DelJMorrissey@house.virginia.gov

    Delegate Ward
    DelACrockett-Stark@house.state.va.us

    Senator Locke
    district02@sov.state.va.us

    Senator Miller
    district01@senate.virginia.gov

    Senator Whipple
    district31@senate.virginia.gov

    Senator Marsh
    district16@sov.state.va.us


    From the *oppose* list

    Senator Miller
    district01@senate.virginia.gov

    Delegate Nutter
    DelDNutter@house.virginia.gov

    Senator Houck
    district17@senate.virginia.gov

    Senator Watkins
    district10@senate.virginia.gov

    Senator Marsh
    district16@sov.state.va.us

    Maybe someone else could compile the emails of those that introduced bills we support for thank you emails.












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    HB 2282 (Supported by VCDL) - Delegate Bowling - allows deer to be hunted with a .223 or a .22-50 rifle (currently .22 is disallowed for deer hunting).
    This bill amends and reenacts § 29.1-519 of the Code of Virginia, relating to hunting deer with rifles.
    However, it's not the only applicable law.
    4VAC15-270-10. Size rifles for hunting bear and deer.
    It shall be unlawful to use a rifle of a calibre less than 23 for the hunting or killing of bear and deer.
    A good idea, but there's a conflict here. (BTW: there's no such caliber as 22-50. I think it should be 22-250.)
    I sent the good Delegate an e-mail.
    A law-abiding citizen should be able to carry his personal protection firearm anywhere that an armed criminal might go.

    Member VCDL, NRA

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