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    NOOOOOOO!

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    "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed"

    Dose no one care about the US Constitution any more?
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    Where is Donkey to tell us again how Obama and his administration aren't going to try to take away our guns. Or given the anti-gun bills already submitted and the anti-gun comments of dem congresscritters the last few weeks, how the blue-dog dems would keep such things from passing?

    I fear that I underestimated either the arrogance or stupidity of Obama and the dem leadership. I didn't think they would go after guns until his second term, if any, taking a lesson from Clinton and the 1996 defeats following the AWB. Clinton didn't want to pass it, not because he objected to constitutional infringements, but because he knew it was political suicide for dem control of congress. It appears that I was wrong. I think I miscalculated and missed the bus for certain firearms.
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    "Making the assault weapons ban would be good for law enforcement . . . . "

    . . . because scary black guns are baaaaaaad baaaaaad baaaaaad. Because I'm just one more of the brain-dead anti-gun crowd, and all guns are baaaaaad baaaaaad baaaad.

    What a bunch of idiots. Why don't they do their research. Cop killer bullets -- are we talking Black Talons? Hell, any FMJ rifle round larger than a .30-.30 will probably defeat body armor. How many incidents of criminals using cop killer bullets have they logged? The cops I know never talk about this issue. And the AWB being good for law enforcement? Last I heard, the cops in LA are having to deal with gangsters who have full-auto weapons, not semi-auto sport rifles.

    We got a battle coming. I'm glad I have mycollection in the safe.

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    fire suppressor wrote:
    "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed"

    Dose no one care about the US Constitution any more?
    It is funny, actually very sad that Obama said people shouldn’t stock up on weapons because he wasn’t going to be looking at these issues, but he didn’t mention his people wouldn’t.

    I don’t know if the constitution is even thought about at all in our Gov any more.



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    deepdiver wrote:
    Where is Donkey to tell us again how Obama and his administration aren't going to try to take away our guns. Or given the anti-gun bills already submitted and the anti-gun comments of dem congresscritters the last few weeks, how the blue-dog dems would keep such things from passing?

    I fear that I underestimated either the arrogance or stupidity of Obama and the dem leadership. I didn't think they would go after guns until his second term, if any, taking a lesson from Clinton and the 1996 defeats following the AWB. Clinton didn't want to pass it, not because he objected to constitutional infringements, but because he knew it was political suicide for dem control of congress. It appears that I was wrong. I think I miscalculated and missed the bus for certain firearms.


    Well it might not be suicide for the Dems any longer, i am amazed at how the sheeple act now since the Gov has convinced them that terrorists are all around us watching our every move and waiting to strike, that they have allowed our freedoms to dwindle in the name of Security. I noticed allot of so called "republicans" leaning more left now then any other time i can remember, and its all in the Name of Security.

    I fear for our future as a country and as free men



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    Gentlemen,

    How many of us are willing to take peaceful action in these matters? There are vastly more of us than there are of them. These people in congress are accountable to us! We do not have to roll over and put up with their bullsh_t. Just look at the number of "assault weapons" flying off store shelves. The anti gun crowd tries to convince us we're a tiny minority with extremist views that doesn't matter and we believe them. That's the only explanation I can come up with for why we put up with their sh_t.

    Folks, we are NOT a tiny minority. How many guns have been sold these past few months? Each of those purchases represents someone who shares our views. How can we let a few hundred politicians overrule the will of tens of millions?

    I call for action. NOT VIOLENCE. NOT THREATS. I cannot emphasize that enough. I call for massive, organized, PEACEFUL protests. We need to make these people understand we have had enough and that we are not going to sit in silence while they walk all over our constitutional rights. Obama already knows how many guns have been sold, so he knows where we stand but he also knows we're a bunch of sissies who can't even be bothered to make a few signs and organize large, continued and unrelenting protests. We didn't do a damn thing when Clinton pulled this, so why should now be any different?

    I'd stand on the street with a sign every day if I had a few hundred people with me. So what gives? Are we so busy with the trivialities of daily life we can't take a stand for our freedoms? Are we just going to sit here on the Internet and whine, or are we going to put the fear of God into this administration with peaceful, yet firm action? If not, we may as well shut up and learn to live as good little subjects now, because without action, that's all any of us will ever be. You can write all the letters you want but these people won't change until American citizens take to the streets with signs in massive numbers, expressing their anger and refusing to be silent until they stop this gun control nonsense.

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    National Security is like military intelligence, Its all one big joke and its just another way for the idiots who run this country to get more control, I am all for another civil war hell i look forward to it.

    At what point are the American people going to say enough is enough and fight back?

    All i can say is this... You can take my "assault" riffles cause i can do just as much damage if not more with a 100yr old Naggant riffle than i can with a AR-15.

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    They don't even care or look if the past regulations have done any good. I bet a hundred dollars these guys don't even do any research for themselves but just buy into the "sqeaky wheel" of people pushing agendas.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

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    I bet a hundred dollars these guys don't even do any research for themselves but just buy into the "sqeaky wheel" of people pushing agendas.
    I bet you're right. Perhaps us gun owners need to learn how to push our agenda - it's clear Brady, et al, are doing a better job than we are.

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    It's relative. If each generation endures only a few more restrictions than the generation before, you can disarm a nation over time.

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    I'm sure that many have seen this already, but it's a classic.

    This video is kinda funny to watch. You get to see the pumpkin boy (AFC to all of you PUAs out there) get pushed out of his own speech by a publicity hound state senator! Just look at how huffy he gets when she just keeps on going.

    Interesting note about the state senator is that her daughter Ashley Devolites is currently serving a 9 year sentence in Federal Prison for armed robbery.
    [flash=320,256]http://www.youtube.com/v/m1Vhqd7RlKs&hl=en&fs=1&rel=0[/flash]

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    And crime will magically be halted. What a load.

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    Again self righteous government officials doing something to make themselves feel like they accomplished something. They do it on GOP side also. We need to stop paying our elected government officials, that might change their way of thinking.
    I am not anti Cop I am just pro Citizen.

    U.S. v. Minker, 350 US 179, at page 187
    "Because of what appears to be a lawful command on the surface, many citizens, because
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    rights, due to ignorance." (Paraphrased)

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    A friend of mine told me that that month before the last AWB came around, there was a store in Selah selling AK47s for 150, and they came with 10 mags. There's postive withing the negative.

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    I call for action. NOT VIOLENCE. NOT THREATS. I cannot emphasize that enough. I call for massive, organized, PEACEFUL protests.
    There enough people to do this in TriC?



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    Too bad that educated people can use rationale for some things, and pure emotion for other things.

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    Peaceful protest is for tree huggers and religious nuts, But as usual people are going to sit on there collective ass's and talk a good game but no one is willing to put there money were there mouth is..... We as a civilization are doomed unless people start realizing whats really going on here.

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    Ok, this is going to have to be another forum where I feel I must have a little word with the members.
    The so-called gun control wackos are not really after our "right to keep and bear arms", read the Amendment; "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed".
    Did anybody but me notice that the 2nd Amendment is the ONLY place in our Constitution that mentions we are guaranteed a "free state"?
    Wake up, they want to abolish the last bit of the freedom we have, it's not about guns, but they want the misinformed general populous to believe that we are safer without private ownership of weapons.
    Hitler felt the same way.
    Stalin felt the same way.
    Chairman Mao felt the same way....
    Do any of you really understand how important it is to keep every one of our freedoms intact?
    Encourage your neighbors to vote against those in the government who even make passing mention of stepping on our freedom. Otherwise, we're well overdue for revolution.
    Let them come after me, they'll get the firefight they fear most. I will not go down peacefully, it's my right as an American Citizen to protect myself and my family.
    (stepping down from soap-box and walking away...)
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    bugly wrote:
    Ok, this is going to have to be another forum where I feel I must have a little word with the members.
    The so-called gun control wackos are not really after our "right to keep and bear arms", read the Amendment; "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed".
    Did anybody but me notice that the 2nd Amendment is the ONLY place in our Constitution that mentions we are guaranteed a "free state"?
    Welcome to OCDO. Hope you stick around and spend more time on the forum. You'll find that you are preaching to the choir in many regards.
    Bob Owens @ Bearing Arms (paraphrased): "These people aren't against violence; they're very much in favor of violence. They're against armed resistance."

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    Thank you, sir, I believe we have come to an agreement on this particular subject.
    Sorry if I came on a bit strong in my previous posting, but I have spent years studying the Constitution and its Amendments, and people who argue the "finer points" without knowing the content get me rather wound up. Ask somebody sometime what the 9th Amendment means to them... (it's OK to look it up if you don't know, most people don't).
    Our Founding Fathers were absolutely clear on the subject matter they wrote about in their drafting of the Constitution, if you'll also notice, there is no mention whatsoever of rights being given to corporations, yet they have been given rights by being made "persons" under the care of the State. Sneaky bastards, eh? Those corporations, with their "special rights" are the root of most of our problems, the insurance and banking industries are all based upon corporate privilege and when they get in trouble, the government bails them out....every time, why? because they are part of the government by becoming "corporeal" with the government. That's where their special powers come from. Mr Madison and Mr Jefferson were very disgusted with the King's corporations and gave them no rights in our Constitution, but over the years, greedy politicians gave them everything they needed to take our rights from us, including our only means to stop them...firearms.
    So, what are we. the People of this fine nation going to do about it? Probably nothing, due to laziness and poor education (which is also governmentally controlled, what a coincidence....) Plus, most of us are so dependent on the government to do things for us that we wouldn't know how to function. Think about that when you are waiting for your tax-return check. Wow! the IRS is going to give me a small part of my own money back after gaining interest on it for a year, aren't they generous? I can buy a new tv to watch a football game on instead of studying what my elected officials are trying to do to me. Smoke and mirrors, baby, that's the way they like it. You're too busy or too tired to care, and your favorite tv show is on anyway, maybe I'll check on them tomorrow, wait, tomorrow has that funny show I like, maybe the next day, and so on...
    Am I a long-winded bastard, or what? :quirky
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