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    I see me in one picture.Â*
    I see me in one picture as well...standing in the background shivering from the cold.
    Pssssh. I didn't even have a coat on. I'm not bothered by the cold, and wanted to OC anyway. I was in a blue shirt/maroon tie and usually had a silver camera in my hand. Actually, I was advised that OC was frowned upon, but I didn't have any issues at all.
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    I was chatting with buddy of mine who was down there; and he mentioned the small number of anti's who were trying to protest but lacked the numbers.

    He did say that one of the VCDL people went off to grab a tray full of Starbucks drinks at one point and gave the a woman who was standing in the cold (I assume the woman photographed) one of the cups of coffee.

    So to whomever it was. . .way to be a standup guy and show that despite the fact that we disagree; we're first and foremost gentlemen (and ladies) !!!!
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    ChinChin wrote:
    I was chatting with buddy of mine who was down there; and he mentioned the small number of anti's who were trying to protest but lacked the numbers.

    He did say that one of the VCDL people went off to grab a tray full of Starbucks drinks at one point and gave the a woman who was standing in the cold (I assume the woman photographed) one of the cups of coffee.

    So to whomever it was. . .way to be a standup guy and show that despite the fact that we disagree; we're first and foremost gentlemen (and ladies) !!!!
    Really? Ground up laxative and all???

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    OK.. so here is my 1 second on TV.. Now I still am owed the other 14 minutes and 59 seconds.


    Carry On.

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    ChinChin wrote:
    I was chatting with buddy of mine who was down there; and he mentioned the small number of anti's who were trying to protest but lacked the numbers.

    He did say that one of the VCDL people went off to grab a tray full of Starbucks drinks at one point and gave the a woman who was standing in the cold (I assume the woman photographed) one of the cups of coffee.

    So to whomever it was. . .way to be a standup guy and show that despite the fact that we disagree; we're first and foremost gentlemen (and ladies) !!!!
    Hope she didn't touch him....They have Cooties!:shock:

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    I really, really do want to see the OC transportation laws change so I don't have to leave my gun in plain sight if I have to leave it in the vehicle for some reason. I can't believe that law!
    Do you mean leaving the gun in plain sight if you are exiting/outside the vehicle?
    Yes, if I go to the courthouse or post office I have to leave the gun inside the truck in plain sight where anyone could smash and grab it. Either that or leave the gun at home where it does no good if needed.


    Why on earth would you think that? Put it in the glove compartment as you are exiting the vehicle.
    There was a court case (someone please remind me of the name) where a person was OCing and got out of their vehicle, and locked their gun in their car in the center console. Police charged him with concealed weapon but judge dismissed the charge saying you can conceal it before leaving your vehicle (in a reasonable amount of time).

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    If you have your gun in the parking lot at a post office are you not ALREADY on Federal Property?
    Carry On.

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    More photos of Lobby day.

    These include the dinner the night before at Bottoms Up Pizza, breakfast at River City Diner as well as at the General Assembly Bldg. & at the Bell Tower.

    http://vagrapeshot.multiply.com/ 1- click on Lobby Day, 2- click on each photo, 3- click on zoom at top right for full screen image. Enjoy.

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    My pics: http://picasaweb.google.com/flyboyed/LobbyDayVCDL2009

    I only took pics at the bell tower.
    Carry On.

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    ed wrote:
    If you have your gun in the parking lot at a post office are you not ALREADY on Federal Property?
    Property yes but you are not inside a federal facility...

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    Great personal pictures by all. Not being able to attend because of work I did manage to watch/record all of the Richmond newscasts during the day. WTVR IMHO had the best.

    Several things I noticed from the GA pictures, males appeared to out number women 10 to 1. That has got to change, or put all the women in the front so the media picks up on it. Next we need more children, teenagers and college students, they may have been in the crowd of the GA pictures but you were well hidden.

    With the new administration in Washington we need to show that gun rights supporters come from all walks of life.

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    § 18.2-422. Prohibition of wearing of masks in certain places; exceptions.
    It shall be unlawful for any person over sixteen years of age while wearing any mask, hood or other device whereby a substantial portion of the face is hidden or covered so as to conceal the identity of the wearer, to be or appear in any public place, or upon any private property in this Commonwealth without first having obtained from the owner or tenant thereof consent to do so in writing. However, the provisions of this section shall not apply to persons (i) wearing traditional holiday costumes; (ii) engaged in professions, trades, employment or other activities and wearing protective masks which are deemed necessary for the physical safety of the wearer or other persons; (iii) engaged in any bona fide theatrical production or masquerade ball; or (iv) wearing a mask, hood or other device for bona fide medical reasons upon the advice of a licensed physician or osteopath and carrying on his person an affidavit from the physician or osteopath specifying the medical necessity for wearing the device and the date on which the wearing of the device will no longer be necessary and providing a brief description of the device. The violation of any provisions of this section shall constitute a Class 6 felony.
    (Code 1950, §§ 18.1-364, 18.1-367; 1960, c. 358; 1975, cc. 14, 15; 1986, c. 19.)
    Maybe he thought there was a dance later in the day???

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    nova wrote:
    ProShooter wrote:
    Neplusultra wrote:
    ProShooter wrote:
    Neplusultra wrote:
    I really, really do want to see the OC transportation laws change so I don't have to leave my gun in plain sight if I have to leave it in the vehicle for some reason. I can't believe that law!
    Do you mean leaving the gun in plain sight if you are exiting/outside the vehicle?
    Yes, if I go to the courthouse or post office I have to leave the gun inside the truck in plain sight where anyone could smash and grab it. Either that or leave the gun at home where it does no good if needed.


    Why on earth would you think that? Put it in the glove compartment as you are exiting the vehicle.
    There was a court case (someone please remind me of the name) where a person was OCing and got out of their vehicle, and locked their gun in their car in the center console. Police charged him with concealed weapon but judge dismissed the charge saying you can conceal it before leaving your vehicle (in a reasonable amount of time).
    +1 I dont remember the case name, but that is correct. Put the gun in the glove compartment and exit the vehicle. Its now "in storage" and doesnt meet the criteria for a concealed weapon under 18.2-308.
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    Grapeshot wrote:
    More photos of Lobby day.

    These include the dinner the night before at Bottoms Up Pizza, breakfast at River City Diner as well as at the General Assembly Bldg. & at the Bell Tower.

    http://vagrapeshot.multiply.com/ 1- click on Lobby Day, 2- click on each photo, 3- click on zoom at top right for full screen image. Enjoy.

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    Thanks for taking my photo Grape...I look cold!
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    ProShooter wrote:
    nova wrote:
    ProShooter wrote:
    Neplusultra wrote:
    ProShooter wrote:
    Neplusultra wrote:
    I really, really do want to see the OC transportation laws change so I don't have to leave my gun in plain sight if I have to leave it in the vehicle for some reason. I can't believe that law!
    Do you mean leaving the gun in plain sight if you are exiting/outside the vehicle?
    Yes, if I go to the courthouse or post office I have to leave the gun inside the truck in plain sight where anyone could smash and grab it. Either that or leave the gun at home where it does no good if needed.


    Why on earth would you think that? Put it in the glove compartment as you are exiting the vehicle.
    There was a court case (someone please remind me of the name) where a person was OCing and got out of their vehicle, and locked their gun in their car in the center console. Police charged him with concealed weapon but judge dismissed the charge saying you can conceal it before leaving your vehicle (in a reasonable amount of time).
    +1 I dont remember the case name, but that is correct. Put the gun in the glove compartment and exit the vehicle. Its now "in storage" and doesnt meet the criteria for a concealed weapon under 18.2-308.
    Correct since it is no longer "on your persons"

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    nova wrote:
    ProShooter wrote:
    Neplusultra wrote:
    ProShooter wrote:
    Neplusultra wrote:
    I really, really do want to see the OC transportation laws change so I don't have to leave my gun in plain sight if I have to leave it in the vehicle for some reason. I can't believe that law!
    Do you mean leaving the gun in plain sight if you are exiting/outside the vehicle?
    Yes, if I go to the courthouse or post office I have to leave the gun inside the truck in plain sight where anyone could smash and grab it. Either that or leave the gun at home where it does no good if needed.


    Why on earth would you think that? Put it in the glove compartment as you are exiting the vehicle.
    There was a court case (someone please remind me of the name) where a person was OCing and got out of their vehicle, and locked their gun in their car in the center console. Police charged him with concealed weapon but judge dismissed the charge saying you can conceal it before leaving your vehicle (in a reasonable amount of time).
    The case is Pruitt v. Commonwealth, 274 Va. 382, 650 S.E.2d 684 (2007) (slip opinion available here).
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    Oops, wrong thread.
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    ProShooter wrote:
    Neplusultra wrote:
    ProShooter wrote:
    Neplusultra wrote:
    I really, really do want to see the OC transportation laws change so I don't have to leave my gun in plain sight if I have to leave it in the vehicle for some reason. I can't believe that law!
    Do you mean leaving the gun in plain sight if you are exiting/outside the vehicle?
    Yes, if I go to the courthouse or post office I have to leave the gun inside the truck in plain sight where anyone could smash and grab it. Either that or leave the gun at home where it does no good if needed.


    Why on earth would you think that? Put it in the glove compartment as you are exiting the vehicle.
    I was told by the State Police, plus if you read the statute doesn't it say you have to be on route to or from a gun club to be carrying a loaded weapon, or have a CHP which I don't have.

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    ed wrote:
    If you have your gun in the parking lot at a post office are you not ALREADY on Federal Property?
    Yea I know, crazy idiot laws, I park in the empty lot next door. All of 20 freakin' feet away!!!

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    GWRedDragon wrote:
    ed wrote:
    If you have your gun in the parking lot at a post office are you not ALREADY on Federal Property?
    Property yes but you are not inside a federal facility...
    OK, which is it?? "On" Fed property or "In" Fed building?

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    CRF250rider1000 wrote:
    ProShooter wrote:
    nova wrote:
    ProShooter wrote:
    Neplusultra wrote:
    ProShooter wrote:
    Neplusultra wrote:
    I really, really do want to see the OC transportation laws change so I don't have to leave my gun in plain sight if I have to leave it in the vehicle for some reason. I can't believe that law!
    Do you mean leaving the gun in plain sight if you are exiting/outside the vehicle?
    Yes, if I go to the courthouse or post office I have to leave the gun inside the truck in plain sight where anyone could smash and grab it. Either that or leave the gun at home where it does no good if needed.


    Why on earth would you think that? Put it in the glove compartment as you are exiting the vehicle.
    There was a court case (someone please remind me of the name) where a person was OCing and got out of their vehicle, and locked their gun in their car in the center console. Police charged him with concealed weapon but judge dismissed the charge saying you can conceal it before leaving your vehicle (in a reasonable amount of time).
    +1 I dont remember the case name, but that is correct. Put the gun in the glove compartment and exit the vehicle. Its now "in storage" and doesnt meet the criteria for a concealed weapon under 18.2-308.
    Correct since it is no longer "on your persons"
    But the transport law, not the carry law, says you have to be on your way to a bonifide gun club, in fact IIRC it mentions something about being a member. What's the code say? I should read it again...

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    Neplusultra wrote:
    CRF250rider1000 wrote:
    ProShooter wrote:
    nova wrote:
    ProShooter wrote:
    Neplusultra wrote:
    ProShooter wrote:
    Neplusultra wrote:
    I really, really do want to see the OC transportation laws change so I don't have to leave my gun in plain sight if I have to leave it in the vehicle for some reason. I can't believe that law!
    Do you mean leaving the gun in plain sight if you are exiting/outside the vehicle?
    Yes, if I go to the courthouse or post office I have to leave the gun inside the truck in plain sight where anyone could smash and grab it. Either that or leave the gun at home where it does no good if needed.


    Why on earth would you think that? Put it in the glove compartment as you are exiting the vehicle.
    There was a court case (someone please remind me of the name) where a person was OCing and got out of their vehicle, and locked their gun in their car in the center console. Police charged him with concealed weapon but judge dismissed the charge saying you can conceal it before leaving your vehicle (in a reasonable amount of time).
    +1 I dont remember the case name, but that is correct. Put the gun in the glove compartment and exit the vehicle. Its now "in storage" and doesnt meet the criteria for a concealed weapon under 18.2-308.
    Correct since it is no longer "on your persons"
    But the transport law, not the carry law, says you have to be on your way to a bonifide gun club, in fact IIRC it mentions something about being a member. What's the code say? I should read it again...
    The only thing you should be concerned with is 18.2-308 in this case, i.e - the gun is now longer "on or about your person"

    When you leave the car, that gun may as well be an ice scraper or first aid kit in your glove box. There's no violation of law.
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    The case is Pruitt v. Commonwealth, 274 Va. 382, 650 S.E.2d 684 (2007) (slip opinion available here).
    Thanks, Mystery Man!

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    Neplusultra wrote:
    CRF250rider1000 wrote:
    ProShooter wrote:
    nova wrote:
    ProShooter wrote:
    Neplusultra wrote:
    ProShooter wrote:
    Neplusultra wrote:
    I really, really do want to see the OC transportation laws change so I don't have to leave my gun in plain sight if I have to leave it in the vehicle for some reason. I can't believe that law!
    Do you mean leaving the gun in plain sight if you are exiting/outside the vehicle?
    Yes, if I go to the courthouse or post office I have to leave the gun inside the truck in plain sight where anyone could smash and grab it. Either that or leave the gun at home where it does no good if needed.


    Why on earth would you think that? Put it in the glove compartment as you are exiting the vehicle.
    There was a court case (someone please remind me of the name) where a person was OCing and got out of their vehicle, and locked their gun in their car in the center console. Police charged him with concealed weapon but judge dismissed the charge saying you can conceal it before leaving your vehicle (in a reasonable amount of time).
    +1 I dont remember the case name, but that is correct. Put the gun in the glove compartment and exit the vehicle. Its now "in storage" and doesnt meet the criteria for a concealed weapon under 18.2-308.
    Correct since it is no longer "on your persons"
    But the transport law, not the carry law, says you have to be on your way to a bonifide gun club, in fact IIRC it mentions something about being a member. What's the code say? I should read it again...
    The transport law states the gun must be "unloaded and securely wrapped" (I interpret that to mean enclosed in a case or wrapped up entirely like a gun sock or t-shirt).

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    Back to photos. Here are a few more: http://picasaweb.google.com/tbailsh/LobbyDay2009#
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